Discussion Why ligature strangulation isn't a more common method ?

[AntisocialGG]

For me it seems like a reasonable method with easy to get materials that most of the people have, doesn't seem painful or slow. So why are most of the people here talking about SN ? i just don't get it.

 

[Frenchy222]

Probably because it doesn't work.

 

[AntisocialGG]

Probably because it doesn't work.

If it doesn't work why wouldn't they remove the megathread or modify it to give warnings ? That doesn't really make sense.

 

[Galahad]

For me it seems like a reasonable method with easy to get materials that most of the people have, doesn't seem painful or slow. So why are most of the people here talking about SN ? i just don't get it.

I can find my carotid pulse but I can't make myself pass out. I personally can't imagine succeeding with the night night method.
One day I'll start proof reading for typos before posting

 

[IRHEXED]

I'm seriously looking at the night-night method combined with alcohol and benzos. It's pretty much the same thing without the struggle, right?

 

[Galahad]

I'm seriously looking at the night-night method combined with alcohol and benzos. It's pretty much the same thing without the struggle, right?

It's the same fatal effect of compression of carotid arteries.

 

[Sheepskin]

For me it seems like a reasonable method with easy to get materials that most of the people have, doesn't seem painful or slow. So why are most of the people here talking about SN ? i just don't get it.

I was also wondering this after reading about it. Judging from the replies in the thread discussing this method it seems like it's more difficult to perform than it sounds due to both psychological and physical elements. I've seen a few people talk about how they've tried it a couple of times and failed thanks to the conditions I mentioned prior and in order to CTB with this method they keep attempting to get used to the feeling and better at blocking their veins. Seems very draining and not worth the hassle

 

[AntisocialGG]

I was also wondering this after reading about it. Judging from the replies in the thread discussing this method it seems like it's more difficult to perform than it sounds due to both psychological and physical elements. I've seen a few people talk about how they've tried it a couple of times and failed thanks to the conditions I mentioned prior and in order to CTB with this method they keep attempting to get used to the feeling and better at blocking their veins. Seems very draining and not worth the hassle

I understand, (out of context: you joined a day after i joined lol), i've not tried it but seems like just something you need to prepare to before doing it correctly. But i do agree, for some people it might be draining and something that with depression sounds almost impossible. So that makes more sense to me.

 

[Galahad]

I was also wondering this after reading about it. Judging from the replies in the thread discussing this method it seems like it's more difficult to perform than it sounds due to both psychological and physical elements. I've seen a few people talk about how they've tried it a couple of times and failed thanks to the conditions I mentioned prior and in order to CTB with this method they keep attempting to get used to the feeling and better at blocking their veins. Seems very draining and not worth the hassles

Blocking jugular veins instead of carotid arteries can create pressure in the head/brain and cause a nasty headache.


As I say, I can feel my carotid pulse. Just once have I felt a little dizzy but I haven't been able to pass out.

If I felt more confident I would consider it as a method.

 

[JesiBel]

Although the death mechanism in strangulation is the same as in hanging (blocking the oxygenated blood supply to the brain), here you depend on how tightly you can tie the ligature to exert pressure and compress the arteries. In hanging, however, you use your suspended weight to achieve this.

Just because it's a little more difficult doesn't mean it's ineffective.

In my opinion, it takes even more determination to use this method, and it may be a bit more 'extreme'.

Comparing it again to hanging, once you step into the void, your weight and gravity will do their work, closing the ligature knot and compressing the neck. In strangulation, it's all up to you.

There are several cases of strangulation (including forensic photos) in these books (may be a useful reading):

Forensic pathology of asphyxial deaths by Dr. Sudhir K. Gupta
Printed book page n° 103, Pdf page n° 118
Printed book page n° 117, Pdf page n° 132

Asphyxiation, suffocation, and neck pressure deaths by Burkhard Madea
Printed book page n° 180, Pdf page n° 193
Printed book page n° 70, Pdf page n° 83

Autoerotic deaths: practical forensic and investigative perspectives by Anny Sauvageau and Vernon J. Geberth
Printed book page n° 123, Pdf page n° 140

 

[AntisocialGG]

Although the death mechanism in strangulation is the same as in hanging (blocking the oxygenated blood supply to the brain), here you depend on how tightly you can tie the ligature to exert pressure and compress the arteries. In hanging, however, you use your suspended weight to achieve this.

Just because it's a little more difficult doesn't mean it's ineffective.

In my opinion, it takes even more determination to use this method, and it may be a bit more 'extreme'.

Comparing it again to hanging, once you step into the void, your weight and gravity will do their work, closing the ligature knot and compressing the neck. In strangulation, it's all up to you.

There are several cases of strangulation (including forensic photos) in these books (may be a useful reading):

Forensic pathology of asphyxial deaths by Dr. Sudhir K. Gupta
Printed book page n° 103, Pdf page n° 118
Printed book page n° 117, Pdf page n° 132

Asphyxiation, suffocation, and neck pressure deaths by Burkhard Madea
Printed book page n° 180, Pdf page n° 193
Printed book page n° 70, Pdf page n° 83

Autoerotic deaths: practical forensic and investigative perspectives by Anny Sauvageau and Vernon J. Geberth
Printed book page n° 123, Pdf page n° 140

Good post, seems like you've dedicated a good amount of time on this topic. I wonder how you got here, i mean, how can i achieve this level of investigation on these type of subjects ?

 

[JesiBel]

Good post, seems like you've dedicated a good amount of time on this topic. I wonder how you got here, i mean, how can i achieve this level of investigation on these type of subjects ?

When I arrived here, I first looked up information about the available methods. When I found the one that best suited me, I began to research it further.

I started using the search bar when I had access to it and found some good threads with information, some from several years ago. With this information as a base, it's easier to search on sites outside the forum.

By understanding the basics of the method and its death mechanism, possible scenarios, and real-life cases (also videos of attempts), you gain more confidence and it's easier to delve deeper and continue learning.

Spoiler

This is a good site for reading medical research. You can sometimes find complete PDFs there. You can write keywords like "death, suicide, the name of the method e.g. hanging/strangulation" and you will get several results. Sometimes this material may include explicit/sensitive photos, so it's best to be forewarned.