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noname223

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Aug 18, 2020
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It might be a difficult question because the opinions on SaSu are quite diverse. But in general we are more pro-choice. Some are pro-mortalists.

There are people saying if we become too tolerant towards suicide people would ctb because of "minor reasons". Or in order to lift the burden of close people in the support network. We all might jump of bridges and drink the koolaid. I think of someone who said something similar.

Antinatalism and even more promortalism is considered insane.

Would society collapse? Does the society need people who go through hell?
 
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Our systems use suffering. Capitalism benefits from workers under pressure. The military often recruits people with limited options. Care jobs, emotional labor, exploitation a lot of that relies on people who don't feel they have a way out. If people had the freedom to choose death with dignity, that would threaten structures that rely on powerlessness and endurance.


But needing something doesn't make it just. Slavery was once "needed." Child labor was "necessary." A system that needs suffering to survive might not be worth preserving in its current form.

But we live in a world where you need permission to die peacefully, and yet you don't need permission to suffer indefinitely. That imbalance says a lot.

And yeah, people throw out the "slippery slope" argument — like if we allow it, everyone's just gonna ctb over a breakup or a bad day. But as you know, people who reach that point are often carrying years of trauma, chronic illness, mental pain, isolation, or just exhaustion from trying.

If people had the genuine choice to peacefully leave life, we might see:
  1. Burned-out workers opting out – especially in abusive or dead-end jobs.
  2. Elderly people choosing dignity over prolonged suffering.
  3. Isolated, neglected, or chronically ill people checking out not because they're "irrational," but because no one helped when it mattered.
  4. A culture shift where people say, "Why are we making life so hard that people want to leave it?"

And that threatens the system. Because a society built on:
  • Working until you're broken
  • Suffering in silence
  • Relying on family guilt to keep people alive
  • Ignoring the suffering of the poor, sick, and disabled
...would no longer work if people could just opt out without violence or fear.

So it wouldn't be a sudden collapse, like buildings falling. It'd be a moral collapse, where we finally ask:

"Why are so many people choosing death? What does that say about how we treat life?"

And that question terrifies those in power.
 
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