Venting What difference does it make to live 10 or 100 years?

[Fall_Apart]

"Normal" people condemn suicide because they say life is precious and should be lived to the last breath. But what they don't want to understand (or accept) is that living to 100 isn't much different than living 10 years. The experiences we live reset every day, meaning your countdown won't stop. So when you're 100, your experiences will only be in your head, because they no longer exist in your present. But the real difference is that the pain is real and will constantly accompany you throughout your life. Will they eventually be able to say, "I had a good life"? Maybe so, but at that point the memories will be exactly like a dream. So I wonder what difference does it make to try to live as long as possible if everything we love will be swept away by death anyway?

 

[hippiedeath]

"Normal" people condemn suicide because they say life is precious and should be lived to the last breath. But what they don't want to understand (or accept) is that living to 100 isn't much different than living 10 years. The experiences we live reset every day, meaning your countdown won't stop. So when you're 100, your experiences will only be in your head, because they no longer exist in your present. But the real difference is that the pain is real and will constantly accompany you throughout your life. Will they eventually be able to say, "I had a good life"? Maybe so, but at that point the memories will be exactly like a dream. So I wonder what difference does it make to try to live as long as possible if everything we love will be swept away by death anyway?

It's all meaningless. No difference 10 or 100.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

by the law of probability the longer a human lives the more likely something horrible will happen.

every day something horrible can happen. if it doesn't that was luck but there's no guarantee of that tomorow. and the probabilility increases every day as the probabilitiy of rolling 2 sixes does every roll because see below the law of large numbers comes into play . and we do live a large number or days, hours , minutes. any second a blood vessel can pop in a brain.

even if it's a low probability. you can roll 2 dice and you might not get 2 sixes the first time but by the law of probability if you keep rolling those dice you will sooner or later get 2 sixes.

if someone encourages someone else to live another day another year then they are considered a hero. for what to risk extreme torture , to be a slave another day ? to me a hero is one that will aid me in suicide but none will because they made that a crime.

a human lives 42,000,000 minutes in 80 years, i wasted many millions of minutes

ai answer:

what's the probability of rolling 2 sixes if you roll 1 million times

If you're asking about the probability of rolling two sixes in a single roll of two dice, it's 1/36, or approximately 2.78%
. This is because each die has 6 sides, so there are 6 x 6 = 36 possible outcomes when rolling two dice. Only one of these outcomes is rolling two sixes.

If you roll a pair of dice 1 million times, the law of large numbers tells us that the observed average of the outcomes will get closer to the expected value as the number of trials increases. In this case, you would expect to roll two sixes approximately 1/36th of the time over those 1 million rolls. This means you would expect to roll two sixes roughly:

1,000,000 rolls / 36 = 27,777.78 times.

 

[Alexei_Kirillov]

The difference is that you get 90 more years of suffering

 

[Fall_Apart]

by the law of probability the longer a human lives the more likely something horrible will happen.

every day something horrible can happen. if it doesn't that was luck but there's no guarantee of that tomorow. and the probabilility increases every day as the probabilitiy of rolling 2 sixes does every roll

even if it's a low probability. you can roll 2 dice and you might not get 2 sixes the first time but by the law of probability if you keep rolling those dice you will sooner or later get 2 sixes.

I completely agree.

The difference is that you get 90 more years of suffering

Exactly.

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

by the law of probability the longer a human lives the more likely something horrible will happen.

every day something horrible can happen. if it doesn't that was luck but there's no guarantee of that tomorow. and the probabilility increases every day as the probabilitiy of rolling 2 sixes does every roll because see below the law of large numbers comes into play . and we do live a large number or days, hours , minutes. any second a blood vessel can pop in a brain.

even if it's a low probability. you can roll 2 dice and you might not get 2 sixes the first time but by the law of probability if you keep rolling those dice you will sooner or later get 2 sixes.

if someone encourages someone else to live another day another year then they are considered a hero. for what to risk extreme torture , to be a slave another day ? to me a hero is one that will aid me in suicide but none will because they made that a crime.

a human lives 42,000,000 minutes in 80 years, i wasted many millions of minutes

ai answer:

what's the probability of rolling 2 sixes if you roll 1 million times

If you're asking about the probability of rolling two sixes in a single roll of two dice, it's 1/36, or approximately 2.78%
. This is because each die has 6 sides, so there are 6 x 6 = 36 possible outcomes when rolling two dice. Only one of these outcomes is rolling two sixes.

If you roll a pair of dice 1 million times, the law of large numbers tells us that the observed average of the outcomes will get closer to the expected value as the number of trials increases. In this case, you would expect to roll two sixes approximately 1/36th of the time over those 1 million rolls. This means you would expect to roll two sixes roughly:

1,000,000 rolls / 36 = 27,777.78 times.

But will the other rolls be good enough to outweigh the double sixes and make life worth living? Normal brained people would say yes but my brain is far from normal.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

What difference does it make to live 10 or 100 years?

90 years by my math.

 

[Wolf Girl]

It's also a fact that time feels as if it's passing faster as you get older. So some researchers said that the first 25 years of your 100 year life are actually the majority of hour life as you experience it. That made me sad because my first 25 years were very bad.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

But will the other rolls be good enough to outweigh the double sixes and make life worth living? Normal brained people would say yes but my brain is far from normal.

Never. to me none of the pleasure addictions even eating food would ever be worth even 10 seconds of the worst constant pain.

trying to give examples that show the pleasure addictions are not worth the worst pain for example putting your whole body all bare skin against red hot metal and having to hold it like that for a minute. what about 10 hours, days, years of that worst constant pain? my point is that the brain can create that level of pain and could keep it constant that level or pain or suffering for years. eating a sandwich or watching a youtube video is not worth that not even 10 seconds of the worst constant unbearable pain , not to me anyway.

i was trying to wash pots another disgusting chore and i had to get the water hot to melt some of that crap. so i bareley touched the very hot water and yeah i pulled away instantly like anyone would . it was hot but not boiling hot. so i tried to put my hand in the water to see how long i could hold it . i couldn't even a second. again every time i suffer even quick fleeting pain like that it schocks me how bad it is that i forgot how that feeling is only way i can describe it's a trillion times worse than the worse you can imagine. keep in mind this water was not boiling so i didn't burn nor damage my hand. i need to do experiments with ice water because hot water can burn. this is to remind me of how bad pain can be. i think ice water though is not as painful as putting your hand in boiling water or on a much hotter red hot steel burner oven or iron griddle.

boiling water is 212 degrees Fahrenheit or 100 degrees Celsius . so that water was much less than 100 celci

a red hot steel oven , griddle or burner can be 1000 degrees farenhiet , 500 celsius

"Red hot" is between 500-800C, or 1000-1500F




trying to give examples that show the pleasure addictions are not worth the worst pain for example putting your whole body all bare skin against red hot metal and having to hold it like that for a minute. what about 10 hours, days, years of that worst constant pain? my point is that the brain can create that level of pain and could keep it constant that level or pain or suffering for years. eating a sandwich or watching a youtube video is not worth that not even 10 seconds of the worst constant unbearable pain , not to me anyway.

the brazen bull torture was meant to torture people like that putting a large amount skin against red hot metal and not being able to escape . they also tortured one guy with a torture called the boats for 17 days straight until he finally died after 17 days of having fly larvae eat him out from inside tied to boats. they tied someone to 2 boats one top in a river. they poured honey to attract insects. you were immobile tied out in the sun which is a torture by itself for even a few minutes. they force fed milk and honey to him for 17 days to keep him alive and to attract more insects flys etc

In the case of Mithridates, he endured 17 days of this torture before he ultimately died. :

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2023/06/21/scaphism/

Scaphism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

This makes sense. If given the choice it's much easier to freeze to death than burn to death.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

This makes sense. If given the choice it's much easier to freeze to death than burn to death.

yes but i was trying to give examples that show the pleasure addictions are not worth the worst pain for example putting your whole body all bare skin against red hot metal and having to hold it like that for a minute. what about 10 hours, days, years of that worst constant pain? my point is that the brain can create that level of pain and could keep it constant that level or pain or suffering for years. eating a sandwich or watching a youtube video is not worth that not even 10 seconds of the worst constant unbearable pain , not to me anyway.

the brazen bull torture was meant to torture people like that putting a large amount skin against red hot metal and not being able to escape . they also tortured one guy with a torture called the boats for 17 days straight until he finally died after 17 days of having fly larvae eat him out from inside tied to boats. they tied someone to 2 boats one top in a river. they poured honey to attract insects. you were immobile tied out in the sun which is a torture by itself for even a few minutes. they force fed milk and honey to him for 17 days to keep him alive and to attract more insects flys etc

In the case of Mithridates, he endured 17 days of this torture before he ultimately died. :

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2023/06/21/scaphism/

Scaphism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

yes but i was trying to give examples that show the pleasure addictions are not worth the worst pain for example putting your whole body against red hot metal and having to hold it like that for a minute. what about 10 hours, days, years of that worst constant pain? my point is that the brain can create that level of pain and could keep it constant that level or pain or suffering for years. eating a sandwich or watching a youtube video is not worth that not even 10 seconds of the worst constant unbearable pain , not to me anyway.

I understand. My level of mental pain has been constant for over two years and nothing good that has happened in my life is worth the suffering I endure daily.

 

[Linda]

"Normal" people condemn suicide because they say life is precious and should be lived to the last breath. But what they don't want to understand (or accept) is that living to 100 isn't much different than living 10 years. The experiences we live reset every day, meaning your countdown won't stop. So when you're 100, your experiences will only be in your head, because they no longer exist in your present. But the real difference is that the pain is real and will constantly accompany you throughout your life. Will they eventually be able to say, "I had a good life"? Maybe so, but at that point the memories will be exactly like a dream. So I wonder what difference does it make to try to live as long as possible if everything we love will be swept away by death anyway?

It makes no difference at all to the person concerned. It may make a difference to those surrounding that person.

 

[FuneralCry]

I understand, to me existing really is just waiting to die, it's all so futile with all being gone and forgotten no matter what in non-existence anyway and I'd just always prefer to not exist than suffer so unnecessarily in this torturous existence, I could never see a point to any of this, I wish I was never burdened with this existence of unnecessary suffering that just leads to decay and death anyway and I see so much cruelty in how we exist in this dreadful anti-suicide world where humans are forced to suffer for as long as possible even know we are all just going to die anyway, it's all so dreadful to me.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think it makes a difference to those left behind and, these are the same people begging us to stay. They have a selfish bias. I imagine a parent losing their 100 year old parent will be sad still but, it would have been expected. If they lose their ten year old child, I imagine that's much harder to get over.

From an individual perspective, the longer we live, the more time we have to try to turn things around and experience joy. Of cousre, the downside is we get the same amount of time to encounter suffering.

If these people are advocating for life, presumably, things are reasonable enough for them to believe it's worth the effort. I think some people simply can't imagine feeling this bad about being alive. They maybe start blaming it on mental illness which they probably believe has a cure.