What can you take with you to hospital following an attempt?

[OzymandiAsh]

I am thinking of hiding some thin rope in my coat so I can attempt ligature strangulation at hospital if my codeine + alcohol attempt goes wrong. I'm hoping it doesn't and I'm still waiting for meto / might switch strategy and go for hanging if I can find a good anchor point outdoors.

I've never attempted before and never stayed at a hospital before, if I end up in one somehow, I'll need a way to CTB there before being sectioned off to a psych ward, where it will be nearly impossible to CTB.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

Take this with a grain of salt, as I was a child both of these times, but... they literally had me strip, turn, and cough. They took my clothes because they had straps and bows made of cloth rope. They confiscated personal fidget toys too (I suspect this was just because they don't like autistic people though, they gave us pencils during art therapy and the fidget toy had no ropes or sharp areas)

 

[martyrdom]

It will depend on your region but a hospital will not let you take any rope with you and you will be searched at intake. They will remove shoelaces and any sharp objects or things they deem dangerous (which is sometimes arbitrary), jewelry, laces from hoodies or sweatpants, anything that can be used to hurt yourself. You are allowed to take some clothes, towels, soap and toothbrush, cash, books, simple stuff. Electronics are sometimes allowed but usually not or they require some privileges. But specifics will depend on your facility. If you are admitted because of suicide attempt, you will likely have 1-1 monitoring for a while so you won't be able to make any attempts.

Edit: just realized you are asking about a regular hospital, not a psych ward. There are many ways to attempt in a hospital (and I have, obviously unsuccessfully) and it is less restrictive, but you will still be on suicide watch, ie. 1-1 monitoring until you get transferred.

 

[NearlyIrrelevantCake]

Attempting in a hospital is S tier stupidity. You're in the same building as dozens, if not hundreds, of medical professionals who can and will immediately try to save your life. You will be caught and it will only make the psych ward stay longer and more restricted. It's not worth it.

 

[martyrdom]

Attempting in a hospital is S tier stupidity. You're in the same building as dozens, if not hundreds, of medical professionals who can and will immediately try to save your life. You will be caught and it will only make the psych ward stay longer and more restricted. It's not worth it.

Can confirm that from my 3 nearly consecutive attempts in the hospital on suicide watch. In my defence however, I didn't have 1-1 monitoring until after the first attempt due to understaffing, and I attacked a staff member in the 3rd

 

[Dejected 55]

Odds are against success in a hospital. It's the one place literally designed to try and keep you alive. They also are going to make you take off all your clothes and get into hospital supplied outfits. You may get nothing of yours back until discharged, but anything you do get back will be searched first.

 

[unbelievablydead]

never been admitted to a hospital before, and maybe this is dumb (tbh i just saw it in a movie, so might not be possible at all), but if not on 24/7 suicide watch, would it be possible to just make a sort of rope out of the bed sheets/towels?

 

[DeathSweetDeath]

Why ODs Fail Miserably (A Guide)

There's still a lot of questions and inquiries about ODs, and people asking about what things may facilitate a successful attempt. Let's be clear, ODs are rarely fatal. Why? For a couple of reasons: (1) modern medications are designed to be very safe, as manufacturers aim to avoid deaths that...

sanctioned-suicide.net

You've read this already, right?

 

[OzymandiAsh]

Attempting in a hospital is S tier stupidity. You're in the same building as dozens, if not hundreds, of medical professionals who can and will immediately try to save your life. You will be caught and it will only make the psych ward stay longer and more restricted. It's not worth it.

Eh... theoretically may only need a good ligature and an hour somewhere private. People have CBT'd at psych wards, let alone hospitals.

Why ODs Fail Miserably (A Guide)

There's still a lot of questions and inquiries about ODs, and people asking about what things may facilitate a successful attempt. Let's be clear, ODs are rarely fatal. Why? For a couple of reasons: (1) modern medications are designed to be very safe, as manufacturers aim to avoid deaths that...

sanctioned-suicide.net

You've read this already, right?

Yes. A carefully planned OD is different to impulsively swallowing a bunch of sleeping pills or OTC painkillers, though. Some people on here are still going to attempt methods like OD and cutting.

 

[Blueberry Panic]

In my experience they search everything , they will specifically be looking for anything you want to hide.

 

[OzymandiAsh]

In my experience they search everything , they will specifically be looking for anything you want to hide.

Even a regular hospital? I think there's a compartment in my coat that they're very unlikely to check, hopefully can get away with it

 

[Blueberry Panic]

Even a regular hospital? I think there's a compartment in my coat that they're very unlikely to check, hopefully can get away with it

You'd have to tome everything right for when they do bedroom checks , which is usually 15 minutes... they usually check to see if anything is hanging up in a room.
And if they catch you that will just add another week or two to your visit .... I sadly know this from my own experience.

 

[JassieDusk]

Yes. A carefully planned OD is different to impulsively swallowing a bunch of sleeping pills or OTC painkillers, though. Some people on here are still going to attempt methods like OD and cutting

It is different, yes. But according to 99% of experienced users here it's just a waste of time and succeeding in an OD is pure luck. You still have a high risk of failure even when planned in detail since it's very hard to overdose on today's medication. Reaching the levels of a 100% fatal toxicity requires a lot more pills than it can fit in your digestive system. It's not worth it in my opinion

 

[Forveleth]

Even a regular hospital? I think there's a compartment in my coat that they're very unlikely to check, hopefully can get away with it

If they even slightly suspect this is an attempt you are not going to end up in regular hospital. Banking on that ia very risky.

 

[OzymandiAsh]

If they even slightly suspect this is an attempt you are not going to end up in regular hospital. Banking on that ia very risky.

I'm in the UK, not the US, I don't know how it works there but over here you get treated at a regular hospital for whatever the physical symptoms are, then when you are better you are likely to get sectioned for a while.

 

[Dejected 55]

never been admitted to a hospital before, and maybe this is dumb (tbh i just saw it in a movie, so might not be possible at all), but if not on 24/7 suicide watch, would it be possible to just make a sort of rope out of the bed sheets/towels?

Technically, maybe... but if they have reason to suspect you might try again (and it's hard to pretend you aren't if you just tried and really want to be dead) they are not going to leave you with much and anything they have to leave with you they are going to be checking at least every half hour... and you're likely to be hooked up to heart/blood pressure monitoring so IF your vitals suddenly drop off, they are going to come running to your room.

Even a regular hospital? I think there's a compartment in my coat that they're very unlikely to check, hopefully can get away with it

You'll be in a regular hospital first and especially if you suffered any injuries that need to be treated... and then, because you tried suicide, you are 100% going to be admitted to a psych ward for at least a few days minimum so they can see how likely you are to try again.

If they even slightly suspect this is an attempt you are not going to end up in regular hospital. Banking on that ia very risky.

Exactly this... they will watch you like a hawk in the emergency room and then keep watching you depending on how risky they deem you to be. In the facility I was in for several weeks, you couldn't stay anywhere that a nurse wasn't stationed (i.e. if the group went somewhere you had to go with the group) and if you stayed in your room, they checked on you every half hour minimum plus you were never allowed to shut the door. And, while I was there at least a couple of patients were under surveillance where someone was assigned to watch them at all times, even in the bathroom they got no privacy because they were deemed a risk that needed to be monitored.