The dumbest SN question

[onlyinsleep]

I once got sick taking a bath after some laundry borax fell in. Would sodium nitrite also absorb into you the same way in a bath? It's a dumb question and I'd probably never try it, but oh well

 

[Stan]

Actually it not that stupid. There is a reported case of someone dying of SN through skin intake. A poisoned batch of muscle liniment. It gave absolutely no details apart from that, so would not know where to start in suggesting how.

 

[JTG1972]

From a '96 forensic science report:

...A case of fatal methemoglobinemia (MetHb-emia) resulting from application of liniment solution containing large quantities of sodium nitrite. As a remedial treatment of atopic dermatitis, the liniment solution was applied all over the boy's body. Autopsy findings showed no significant macroscopic or microscopic findings except blood tinted chocolate brown color and chronic atopic dermatitis over the whole surface of the body. Quantitation of the methemoglobin (MetHb) in the blood was performed using spectrophotometer; MetHb concentration of the blood was 76%. Ion chromatographic determination revealed a nitrite concentration of 1 mg/L in the serum.

There was a study done by the same group/author a year later applying similar liniments (at concentrations of 30 g/L and 140 g/L) onto rats—either with normal or abraded skin, and then they tested methemoglobin levels 3 hours later.

After the application of each liniment solution to normal skin, the methemoglobin concentration was not significantly modified depending on the time after application. Application of liniment solution to abraded skin (140 g/L) resulted in a marked increase in methemoglobin concentration. A remarkable decrease in arterial blood pressure and subcutaneous blood flow were observed after application of liniment solution to abraded skin (140 g/L).

Nothing in the abstract at least on death of the rats even with roughed up skin.

Also from a chemical handling safety data sheet from a certain college, it lists for 'skin contact' for sodium nitrite: "Causes irritation, redness and pain. May be absorbed through the skin causing systemic poisoning; symptoms may parallel ingestion." But nothing on levels/amount and it sounds painful.

 

[onlyinsleep]

[IQUOTE="JTG1972, post: 433624, member: 10987"]
From a '96 forensic science report:


There was a study done by the same group/author a year later applying similar liniments (at concentrations of 30 g/L and 140 g/L) onto rats—either with normal or abraded skin, and then they tested methemoglobin levels 3 hours later.



Nothing in the abstract at least on death of the rats even with roughed up skin.

Also from a chemical handling safety data sheet from a certain college, it lists for 'skin contact' for sodium nitrite: "Causes irritation, redness and pain. May be absorbed through the skin causing systemic poisoning; symptoms may parallel ingestion." But nothing on levels/amount and it sounds painful.
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Well, interesting, nonetheless.

 

[welshie84]

I just handled the bottle it came in and washed my hands a few times straight after and an hour later my hands are still tingling. It's very very caustic

 

[MeltingHeart]

I once got sick taking a bath after some laundry borax fell in. Would sodium nitrite also absorb into you the same way in a bath? It's a dumb question and I'd probably never try it, but oh well

should imagine you would need a huge amount

 

[9137890]

I think this could work. Maybe it could be faster by contact with blood. Cyanide capsules are ordinary not eaten. The glas capsules are beaten and when it gets contact with blood you ctb. Maybe this could work with SN?

 

[onlyinsleep]

I think this could work. Maybe it could be faster by contact with blood. Cyanide capsules are ordinary not eaten. The glas capsules are beaten and when it gets contact with blood you ctb. Maybe this could work with SN?

I wonder. Cuz if I've sat in bath water a while ,, I seem to absorb stuff.

 

[Stan]

Well medically there are patches that give doses of drugs so its more than a theory. Just the process would be so hit and miss

 

[JTG1972]

Not to mention the reports of minor level skin absorption mention such fun reactions as irritation, burning sensation, inflammation, and possibly developing open-sore type injuries. You know—fun stuff.

 

[JimFord99]

I once got sick taking a bath after some laundry borax fell in. Would sodium nitrite also absorb into you the same way in a bath? It's a dumb question and I'd probably never try it, but oh well

Do you have any allergies? Maybe the fume of hot water in combination with the borax? Not a silly question at all.

 

[Sweet emotion]

This is a question that could never be given a definitive answer.

 

[JimFord99]

This is a question that could never be given a definitive answer.

In relation to allergic reactions? Hmm, probably not until you tried. You see, I think it would be nice to know so you can prepare yourself. There are too many unknown factors involved, and not much to google about.

 

[999888]

I put a little of sn technical grade in my palm for 30 minutes and nothing happened...

 

[JimFord99]

I put sn technical grade in my palm for 30 minutes and nothing happened. Now I am worried.

Not in you palm, you have to ingest it.

 

[999888]

Not in you palm, you have to ingest it.

but at least my skin was supposed to be irritated, right? nothing happened.

 

[JimFord99]

but at least my skin was supposed to be irritated, right? nothing happened.

No, your skin won't be affected, well, most of ot won't. Eyes, mouth, tongue and stomach will be,, not your dry parts.

 

[JTG1972]

The study showed the rats with abraded (roughed up, but not sure to wht level) skin were more greatly affected by skin contact. Intact healthy skin would probably have to be a longer term exposure (or possibly wet? No idea)

 

[onlyinsleep]

The study showed the rats with abraded (roughed up, but not sure to wht level) skin were more greatly affected by skin contact. Intact healthy skin would probably have to be a longer term exposure (or possibly wet? No idea)

I self harm feet a lot, maybe I could try absorbing it through there. Lmao.

Do you have any allergies? Maybe the fume of hot water in combination with the borax? Not a silly question at all.

No, it just made me want to vomit and I had nausea, no skin reactions...I felt poisoned then recovered in a few days

 

[Alec]

I don't know about skin but I have heard and read somewhere along time ago that the colon absorbs stuff into organism too. Which makes sense. So basically if you pour some alcohol in your ass you'll get drunk. But the think is that when in the colon the alcohol doesn't go through everything it goes through when you drink it therefore your body doesn't make it weaker like it does when you drink it. So basically you can get drunk WAY faster and with less alcohol by "drinking" with your butt. Plus I think colon also absorbs stuff into the blood too especially if there is a small tear in it. So maybe it would work with SN. But I honestly don't know I haven't read anything about it in a long time and SN isn't alcohol so I don't know, just an idea.
Edit: I wanted to add, that what I read also said to be careful with it because if to pour alcohol in your butt it will take a lot less alcohol to get alcohol poisoning than when drinking it through mouth. And people die through alcohol poisoning too.