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researcher12

researcher12

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Oct 25, 2024
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Just got the idea, how idiotic does it sound? if we could put a pipe inside trachea then do a full suspension we can block blood from flowing throug carotid and jugular to brain, at the same time avoid suffocation related distress?
 
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MyTimeIsUp

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You'd choke horrifically first, so how do you suppose you'd be able to do anything? You won't be able to swallow a pipe, it'll get stuck. You'll call for an ambulance, for SURE.

It won't go near any of your arteries...

No disrespect, but this is just an incredibly silly idea
 
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Praestat_Mori

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There wouldn't be any need to be able to breath anyway - you should pass out within 10-15 seconds (maybe 30 secs max). You won't feel the need to breath anymore once you're unconscious.
 
researcher12

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was a silly idea. sorry.
 
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userharsh

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There wouldn't be any need to be able to breath anyway - you should pass out within 10-15 seconds (maybe 30 secs max). You won't feel the need to breath anymore once you're unconscious.
Than why people not just block nose and mouth by tape and inject propofol or thiopental, so unconscious in 15 second , after no feeling of suffocation according to you
 
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Praestat_Mori

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Than why people not just block nose and mouth by tape and inject propofol or thiopental, so unconscious in 15 second , after no feeling of suffocation according to you
Do you have OTC access to either or both of them? Then you don't need to consider hanging.
 
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userharsh

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I have no link to a guide but both of them are lethal (best administered IV).
Than why not used in euthanasia or lethal injection, they use thisa drug and another drug, however there is no confirmation of painless death, it can be painful
 
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babouflo201223

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Aug 18, 2024
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Alors pourquoi les gens ne se bouchent-ils pas simplement le nez et la bouche avec du ruban adhésif et ne s'injectent-ils pas du propofol ou du thiopental, de façon à perdre connaissance en 15 secondes, sans aucune sensation d'étouffement selon vous ?
You have propofol and thiopental, really ?!! Lucky you !
 
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babouflo201223

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There wouldn't be any need to be able to breath anyway - you should pass out within 10-15 seconds (maybe 30 secs max). You won't feel the need to breath anymore once you're unconscious.
The idea was stupid because of the pipe but not because of being able to breath. If we could avoid to crash the trachea and then cause more pain + suffocation before we fall into unconsciousness, it would be great ! There is enough terrible pain with the whole weight of the body suddenly on the neck and even if it's a matter of 12-20 seconds (sometimes more), it's violent. With partial suspension, trachea is protected even when carotids are blocked, there is no suffocation. Protecting the trachea during full suspension would be a good idea, but how ? I remember it was once question of a double ring to put on the rope, in the front of the neck, to protect the trachea and if it was usable for full suspension too, why not ? The problem, this double ring question was not clearly explained anywhere.
There wouldn't be any need to be able to breath anyway - you should pass out within 10-15 seconds (maybe 30 secs max). You won't feel the need to breath anymore once you're unconscious.
 
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The idea was stupid because of the pipe but not because of being able to breath. If we could avoid to crash the trachea and then cause more pain + suffocation before we fall into unconsciousness, it would be great ! There is enough terrible pain with the whole weight of the body suddenly on the neck and even if it's a matter of 12-20 seconds (sometimes more), it's violent. With partial suspension, trachea is protected even when carotids are blocked, there is no suffocation. Protecting the trachea during full suspension would be a good idea, but how ? I remember it was once question of a double ring to put on the rope, in the front of the neck, to protect the trachea and if it was usable for full suspension too, why not ? The problem, this double ring question was not clearly explained anywhere.
True, the ring solution for total suspension was never explained.
 
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