Suicide & society

[joey2424]

I'm curious what your thoughts are around why you believe suicide is made so difficult by our governments.

I have a primary rationale for it, but curious if that is the widely held belief or not.

 

[FuneralCry]

It's just so horrific and terrible how it is with the suffering and torture of existing seen as to force and prolong no matter what, I always suffer so much from how it's a crime wanting to permanently be free from this torturous, futile existence, all I want is to be gone, I see so much cruelty in how humans force others to suffer in this existence that was so tragically imposed that just causes so much harm and suffering in the first place, existence will just always be an abomination to me no matter what.

 

[badatparties]

Most likely a lot of religious bullshit. People would then also have to admit that they brought their kids into a shit world and their ego can't handle that. In short, it's easier to keep your head in the sand than talk about uncomfortable topics.

 

[thisIsNotEnough]

Almost all governments are dependent on capitalism to continue existing, and the more people that kill themselves, the less people there are to work jobs and pay taxes. Making it incredibly difficult to take our own lives isn't to reduce harm, it's to reduce productivity losses that threaten the state.

 

[voirpoet.]

I'm curious what your thoughts are around why you believe suicide is made so difficult by our governments.

I have a primary rationale for it, but curious if that is the widely held belief or not.

as unfortunate as it is for us who have been suffering for a while, it does make sense. people who don't have depression and are generally happy would impulsively choose to do it at an inconvenience they would've eventually got over. by making peaceful methods inaccesible, it prevents that. also, it would not be good for the economy if healthy young people started dropping like flies.

 

[MicahBell]

I'm curious what your thoughts are around why you believe suicide is made so difficult by our governments.

I have a primary rationale for it, but curious if that is the widely held belief or not.

people view it as a moral failure because it hurts people around you i guess. or maybe its a moral failure because they think you should want to live, and if you don't, you lived a bad life.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think there are multiple reasons. The ones we all leap to are financial. The need for wage slaves. Even if someone can't work, they fit in the capitalist machine- creating the need for pharmaceuticals, providing jobs for carers etc. No doubt, religions still have power too.

As for allowing suicide for all though- that wouldn't be a popular choice for parents. I think people have this concept that it's only our governments keeping us here against our will. It isn't just them- it's our families, friends and especially our parents. They simply don't want to lose their children via suicide.

They certainly don't want the government to be allowing them access to lethal substances. Imagine the rioting in the streets the moment the first few 18-20 year olds take their lives. (If it was introduced.) How many votes do you suppose they'd win by saying: 'We're going to introduce programmes whereby your children can gain access to lethal drugs!' I think to a greater extent- our governments are simply listening to popular opinion when they don't allow suicide for all.

The argument doesn't stand at all when it comes to the aging population. While they may generate jobs- they must be a massive drain on resources. It would surely suit our governments to start culling them. And- why stop there? Why not the ill and homeless too? I imagine it would benefit them to get rid of chunks of society. So- why don't they? Because those people are still other people's relations! And- even if it was supposedly that person's 'free' choice- we likely wouldn't like it as a society if our governments started killing us off!

It also may like look like the inhumane option ultimately. Why bother paying for a heroin addicts methadone for months on end, providing them with housing and benefits when a single euthanasia shot would be cheaper? I think governments realise how that would look so- they try to at least appear to do the moral thing and (supposedly) support people to live.

I imagine there would also be many investigations as to why a person ended up in the position they were in- where suicide seemed so appealing. Were there failings in society that ought to have taken care of them? So- was it actually their 'free choice' to die or, were they left with little alternative because no one would help them?

I think allowing assisted suicide would be holding up a massive magnifying glass on our societies failings. As it is, people can be neglected and forgotten about till they die. If they start being killed off young- more might start paying attention.