Suicide in transplantation hospital

[wildcatfour]

I'm considering buying gunpowder gun and killing myself in the bathroom of hospital that conduct transplantations, so I can donate organs.

What do you think?

 

[TiredHorse]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that organ donation from suicides isn't allowed. Superstition, dissuasion of compelled suicide, and the fear that drugs were involved and have contaminated the tissues.

 

[15dec]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that organ donation from suicides isn't allowed. Superstition, dissuasion of compelled suicide, and the fear that drugs were involved and have contaminated the tissues.

Damn, really? I'm a registered organ donor so it'd suck if they just ignored that because I ctb

 

[15dec]

I'm considering buying gunpowder gun and killing myself in the bathroom of hospital that conduct transplantations, so I can donate organs.

What do you think?

I wouldn't ctb in a hospital, seems far too likely that you'll be discovered and 'saved'

 

[OkTotti]

I'm considering buying gunpowder gun and killing myself in the bathroom of hospital that conduct transplantations, so I can donate organs.

What do you think?

I think this is never going to happen...

 

[TAW122]

I think this is never going to happen...

Also, unless I'm wrong, I think most hospitals have metal detectors or security that checks each person for prohibited items or something? Even if not, if someone was brought in by someone else, especially EMT or first responders, they probably frisked and combed through the patient's personal belongings.

 

[TiredHorse]

Damn, really? I'm a registered organ donor so it'd suck if they just ignored that because I ctb

Look at the way organ donation typically works: an accident with known circumstances puts someone on life support. The docs can run a tox screen and be confident that there is no criminal action at play. With a suicide, there are too many question marks for the legal system --even if you leave a note-- and the coroner will inevitably hold the body until the inquest/investigation closes the file that yes, it was suicide. By which time, your organs are long past their sell-by date.

The only way I can see it working is if you try, are unsuccessful, and end up on life support for long enough that all the questions are answered: no harmful drugs in your system, no foul play. Your family pulls the plug and your organs are donated.

I don't know about elsewhere, but here in WA there are no metal detectors in hospitals: I have my CPL (CCW) and used to carry a gun day to day, and was never stopped on those times when I went into the hospital. Mental facility, yes, there are laws about that, but not a regular hospital.

 

[Idorus]

I seriously considered traveling to the black donor market in Iran or whatever obscure part of the world to offer my heart in exchange for a peaceful death under anesthesia. Might be a lucrative business.

 

[Shewaitsforme]

You can yes, im not 100% on the details but it is possible. 2009 a young girl did and helped 6 people with her organs and a case in 2012. Its brings legal, ethical and medical questions but not something that hasnt been done before. Its not promoted because its seen as giving suicidal people another reason killing themselves is ok.

 

[TiredHorse]

You can yes, im not 100% on the details but it is possible. 2009 a young girl did and helped 6 people with her organs and a case in 2012. Its brings legal, ethical and medical questions but not something that hasnt been done before. Its not promoted because its seen as giving suicidal people another reason killing themselves is ok.

I'd bet she wasn't DOA, but instead ended up on life support. Her family would then turn off life support and give the nod, if that's what she had requested. The certainty that it was not a criminal case and the family's permission would mean everything. I can't imagine there aren't otherwise too many ethical/legal issues around accepting organ donation from a suicide.

ETA: National laws probably come into play here, too.

 

[Shewaitsforme]

This is the 2009 article.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-suicide-gave-life-people-organs-donated.html

The deceased patient does not always need to be on a ventilator especially of they die in hospital, kidney organ harvesting has been done without a ventilator used prior.

 

[Retched]

I seriously considered traveling to the black donor market in Iran or whatever obscure part of the world to offer my heart in exchange for a peaceful death under anesthesia. Might be a lucrative business.

Is this a thing? I'd do it...in a heartbeat. (pun intended)

 

[TiredHorse]

Thank you, @Shewaitsforme. Excellent citation.

"...she died in the intensive care unit. Police said an investigation into her death had revealed no suspicious circumstances..."

So her death was physician-monitored, the decision involved the parents, and the authorities could be confident there was no foul play or coercion. I have my doubts that a suicide discovered without any reliable provenance would allow the organs to be used.

But obviously, I could well be wrong. I suppose if you're going to ctb anyway, there's no reason not to make the attempt...

 

[Shewaitsforme]

The 2012 article was a hanging suicide, the person was found still in situ.

There are ways round things, family arnt always asked that would be impossible and if the person has signed up for organ doantion the hospital can legally go ahead if they choose to.

Basics are yes organs can be used from a suicide patient, without life support and without family consent providing all else is ticked off so to speak :)

 

[Idorus]

Is this a thing? I'd do it...in a heartbeat. (pun intended)

I think it is but finding the right people and right setting is the tough side of the story. I never found a serious dark site market where to put this offer in capitals other than some half-hearted suicide onion board where I got a pro-life attack after my creatively put offer with the title "I offer my heart in exchange for... etc"

I like this;
If you're like the Tin Man from The Wizard of Oz and you need a new heart to stay alive, you may be very tempted to turn to the Black Market. Legal heart donations require $997,700 dollars, which is a major chunk of the estimated $1.2 million fee associated with heart transplant surgery.

Most people don't have $1.2 million available to save their life, and the Black Market makes the process much more affordable. Each illegally obtained heart is worth $119,000, which makes the price of a legal heart seem like the true crime. https://www.ranker.com/list/black-market-organ-cost/april-a-taylor