Method Od on Drugs that induce coma + Drowning

[JadedBeing]

So ODing on an Opioid on its own can be risky because of multiple factors like purity and stuff. But when you combine it with drowning you get the Best of both worlds, unconciousness from the OD and almost certain death from drowning if no one rescues you. If i remember correctly that's how the friends Actor Matthew Perry died after years of depression/derealization and drug use. Btw He Made a good movie about his life and his mental struggle called "numb", good movie. He died taking Ketamine, going unconcious and drowning in his Pool.
So combined with drowning your choice of drugs to OD with is much Bigger. Opioids like Fentanyl can Induce coma even in low doses, but Ketamine too, and theres another drug called GHB (its also used by mixing it into drinks to make people go unconcious so they can do stuff to them). I'm sure there are more drugs that may not kill you with 100% certainty but make you go unconcious.

My Biggest wish is to die without pain while being unconcious and this combo seems like its possible and not that hard to accomplish since you can buy Ketamine and GHB from many dealers nowadays. Mixing in some Benzos, alcohol and if you can get your hands on fentanyl or Heroin may increase chances of coma even more and reduce anxiety.

Vomiting is a big risk factor tho. So maybe drinking less but more potent alcohol and taking antiemetics is a good idea. IVing the coma inducing drug would be ideal.

 

[nobodycaresaboutme]

I believe complete unconsciousness is hard to achieve. If fire breaks out most people are able to run away even when they are sleeping. The fear of death will make you wake up and swim to the shore. OD is not a switch of your consciousness. I think it is likely to be painful, and even unsuccessful.

 

[JadedBeing]

I believe complete unconsciousness is hard to achieve. If fire breaks out most people are able to run away even when they are sleeping. The fear of death will make you wake up and swim to the shore. OD is not a switch of your consciousness. I think it is likely to be painful, and even unsuccessful.

Complete unconciousness is not that hard to achive. People go unconcious and die with just ODing. The drowning is just an extra nail in the coffin. Sleeping and coma are not the same.

 

[Intoxicated]

Relying on coma looks like an oversimplified idea of unconscious drowning. A lot of things will happen before you actually reach that level of deep unconsciousness. I would consider the following periods and their relations.

• t(LOBC) - time to loss of bodily control - time to loss of the ability to support your head above the water level.
• t(submerging) - time to submerging.
• t(aspiration) - time to aspiration of water when the ability to hold your breath is lost (either due to unbearable urge to breathe or loss of conscious control over respiration).
• t(analgesia) - time to analgesia - time to reducing the sensitivity to unpleasant stimuli caused by drowning to an acceptable degree.
• t(LOS) - time to loss of sensitivity - time to complete loss of sensitivity to unpleasant stimuli caused by drowning (perfect condition).
• t(LOC1) - time to loss of consciousness for the first time.
• t(LOCL) - time to loss of consciousness for the last time - can be the same as t(LOC1).
• t(coma) - time to coma.

We can surely tell that

t(LOBC) < t(LOC1)
t(submerging) ≤ t(aspiration)
t(analgesia) < t(LOS)
t(analgesia) < t(LOCL)
t(LOS) ≤ t(LOCL)
t(LOC1) ≤ t(LOCL) < t(coma)

It's also likely that

t(aspiration) < t(LOC1)
t(analgesia) < t(LOC1)

The most important relations that determine potential distress from drowning are

t(aspiration) ? t(analgesia)
t(aspiration) ? t(LOS)

If t(aspiration) ≥ t(LOS), this is perfect.
If t(analgesia) ≤ t(aspiration) < t(LOS), this is good (but not perfect).
If t(aspiration) < t(analgesia), this is not so good, and greater values of t(analgesia) - t(aspiration) mean worse overall discomfort.

The maximum potentially possible duration of significant discomfort, t(analgesia) - t(aspiration), depends on how fast loss of consciousness is produced. Methods that produce unconsciousness in about 30 seconds would less likely allow prolonged distress than methods that produce unconsciousness in 5 minutes.

 

[Battered_Seoul]

Relying on coma looks like an oversimplified idea of unconscious drowning. A lot of things will happen before you actually reach that level of deep unconsciousness. I would consider the following periods and their relations.

• t(LOBC) - time to loss of bodily control - time to loss of the ability to support your head above the water level.
• t(submerging) - time to submerging.
• t(aspiration) - time to aspiration of water when the ability to hold your breath is lost (either due to unbearable urge to breathe or loss of conscious control over respiration).
• t(analgesia) - time to analgesia - time to reducing the sensitivity to unpleasant stimuli caused by drowning to an acceptable degree.
• t(LOS) - time to loss of sensitivity - time to complete loss of sensitivity to unpleasant stimuli caused by drowning (perfect condition).
• t(LOC1) - time to loss of consciousness for the first time.
• t(LOCL) - time to loss of consciousness for the last time - can be the same as t(LOC1).
• t(coma) - time to coma.

We can surely tell that

t(LOBC) < t(LOC1)
t(submerging) ≤ t(aspiration)
t(analgesia) < t(LOS)
t(analgesia) < t(LOCL)
t(LOS) ≤ t(LOCL)
t(LOC1) ≤ t(LOCL) < t(coma)

It's also likely that

t(aspiration) < t(LOC1)
t(analgesia) < t(LOC1)

The most important relations that determine potential distress from drowning are

t(aspiration) ? t(analgesia)
t(aspiration) ? t(LOS)

If t(aspiration) ≥ t(LOS), this is perfect.
If t(analgesia) ≤ t(aspiration) < t(LOS), this is good (but not perfect).
If t(aspiration) < t(analgesia), this is not so good, and greater values of t(analgesia) - t(aspiration) mean worse overall discomfort.

The maximum potentially possible duration of significant discomfort, t(analgesia) - t(aspiration), depends on how fast loss of consciousness is produced. Methods that produce unconsciousness in about 30 seconds would less likely allow prolonged distress than methods that produce unconsciousness in 5 minutes.

Thank you for this.

I was wondering how ambien/alprazolam would fit into this scheme. I was calculating that loss of bodily control would roughly coincide with LOC and would at the least result in some degree of analgesia if not loss of sensitivity, enough to make it viable.