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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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I get it, money doesn't literally buy happiness, but it depends on what your definition of happiness is. 99% of people's definition of happiness is something that you have to pay for. Like if you have to travel anywhere to feel happy you are spending money in some capacity. Whoever says that money can't buy happiness literally doesn't know what life is like without money. If you don't have a lot of money, then having money will make you happy, but if you have been in an environment where you've had money all of your life, then it won't buy happiness. I'd rather be unhappy on a private jet than trying to worry about rent.
 
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Cosmog

Cosmog

Everything going wrong, nothing going right.
Jun 22, 2024
6
What you've covered is true in a lot of ways but most of your argument is simply an appeal to majority fallacy. Also the last part of ur post is a bit iffy, as there is a bunch of successful people who've made it from having nothing to having everything they ever wanted and still falling to drugs, anxiety and depression. Some are able to overcome it and others aren't. I believe money can only buy a temporal & fictitious happiness. Sure it may be able to solve most the problems you currently have atm, but new problems would prolly arise in which money cannot solve (unless ur a simple minded guy who only worries about js rent, which there's obv nthn wrong w). Overall tho it just comes down w who u are as a person, but I actually believe that only a minority would be able to stave off their depression with money, as it is shown time and time again with how society works that even the richest ppls lives look more miniscule in happiness than a humble middle to poor class family, as relationships are more deep and wouldn't waver over the increase/decrease in income. Maybe this is js wishful thinking in my end tho idk, but its nice to think sometimes that its the strength of the connection you have with others that bring you more happiness than money itself.
 
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derpyderpins

derpyderpins

missing everybody
Sep 19, 2023
2,136
Once you've tried everything in your power, available in your situation, money gives you the chance at those last options. I think I'd be better if I could escape wageslavery, but of course I don't know. Notice that people who come in to say money doesn't make a difference on these threads aren't rushing to get rid of theirs.

"Money, so they say, is the root of all evil today... But if you ask for a rise it's no surprise that they're giving none away."
 
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kyhoti

kyhoti

Looking for fair winds and following seas
May 27, 2024
294
It can't buy happiness, but it sure does make shit easier. Just saying.
 
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DoubleUp8

DoubleUp8

Gambler
Dec 14, 2023
540
Money may not buy true happiness but zero dollars = zero happiness. Money can't buy poverty.
 
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CocoToxBase

CocoToxBase

Experienced
Jan 8, 2024
290
there needs to be a balance. You cant just have a constant stream of loads of money coming in because eventually the money that brought you happiness will in fact make you depressed because you've done everything you've wanted to do and basically 'completed life'. That's why there's high suicidal rates in rich people. If you are poor then that sucks because you can't do stuff that the majority of people do. In my opinion having money to pay bills and then extra for luxury stuff is a nice balance. But from the UK point of view we can't even have that anymore due to the prices rising. But overall money can buy happiness it's just the question of how long will you be happy for
 
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fuzzy-clown

Experienced
Nov 27, 2022
227
If you have enough money you could hire a team of people to make you happy.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Yeah, definitely. I think it's more that the lack of money can lead to misery. Again, not in all circumstances but it can be a massive stressor in life. Plus, it's unpleasant being such a slave to it. Protestors will just respond by saying- 'go and live off grid then' but I find that kind of a cop out. Just because a person doesn't enjoy being a wave slave, doesn't mean they want to freeze their butt off in the wild foraging for grasshoppers to eat. I think it's reasonable to say that neither lifestyles appeal!
 
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divinemistress36

divinemistress36

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Jan 1, 2024
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it would make life less stressful but there are a lot of rich people who just work a lot and dont even get to enjoy their riches
 
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makebelieve

makebelieve

Member
Apr 19, 2022
54
If i had money to fix my facial scars my life would be 10x better.
 
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UKscotty

Doesn't read PMs
May 20, 2021
2,447
Plenty of rich people CTB and lots of poor people are very happy.

Happiness comes from within us, not external factors.

Depression won't go away just because the bank balance is healthy.
 
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Trav1989

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Jun 2, 2024
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I get it, money doesn't literally buy happiness, but it depends on what your definition of happiness is. 99% of people's definition of happiness is something that you have to pay for. Like if you have to travel anywhere to feel happy you are spending money in some capacity. Whoever says that money can't buy happiness literally doesn't know what life is like without money. If you don't have a lot of money, then having money will make you happy, but if you have been in an environment where you've had money all of your life, then it won't buy happiness. I'd rather be unhappy on a private jet than trying to worry about rent.
Oh, money can certainly buy stability at least in an unstable world. It also opens doors up that would otherwise be shut and thus enables a plethora of options instead of a couple paths that lead to mediocrity or worse.
 
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F@#$

Freedom seeker
Nov 8, 2023
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Says people with plenty of money.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
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I think I mentioned it in a similar thread long ago but I remember a study that tested how much money really makes happy and the result was that an income up to about 8-10k $ a month generally makes happier but with higher income there's no gain in happiness anymore.

We assume here that there are no other issues that can't be cured with money.
 
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OhWellDerp321

Student
Jun 1, 2023
191
Money is a measure of happiness.

That's why there is almost no chance that you will find a homeless person that will refuse lots of money if offered to them.

If you are rich, you can still be depressed. But who do you think is suffering more? The homeless person freezing in winter on the streets? Or the rich person in his private jet flying to the Caribbeans?
Which person would you want to be?

If money doesn't equal hapiness, then would you give away 95% your savings to help a stranger or a homeless person? Doubt most of the world would do it. Know why? Because at the end of the day, when you don't have that money anymore, you will realize that money could let you buy things that will make you happier or suffer less.

Money can't solve all the problems in the world. But it can certainly solve 98% of them.

Have an abusive family? If you have money, you can buy a house and move far away.
Have an abusive family? If you DON'T have money, you are forced to stay with the abusive family.

Lost your job? If you have money, you can relax knowing you can live comfortably without working for another 2 years.
Lost your job? If you DON'T have money, you are forced to find a minumum wage job. If you're unlucky and can't find one, have fun skipping a few meals or paying rent.

Want to retire? Easy if you have money. Heck you can even retire early.
If you DON'T have money. Have fun retiring when most pensions now-a-days don't give you enough to rent a room.
You would be working till you're 85.

Those are just a few things listed without even having to think.

Needless to say, there are few problems that money can't solve.
 
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Gangrel

Gangrel

Mage
Jul 25, 2024
505
I think this debate is so old already, only a fool says money can't buy happiness. Money is just a tool to get to happiness.
 
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fmak

Member
Jul 27, 2024
17
Really depends but in most cases money is actually happiness. If you have lived with $0 savings or in pocket you will know that money is indeed hapiness.
 
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Imcantbreathe

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Aug 19, 2024
33
I got 200k last year, since I received that life has been spiraling I was not seeking happiness within the money but it did lead to my girlfriend breaking up with me, losing my job. Plus my depression was masked prior of getting the money now I am in a horrendous state where nothing can make me happy but death
 
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Defenestration

Defenestration

I want to have the courage to defenestrate myself
Oct 25, 2020
1,517
I will be able to win 100 million euros, that will not bring back the love of my life who died of an illness...it will not restore health to my mother who has the beginnings of Alzheimer's. Afterwards I can understand that for people in great financial difficulties, money can have a magical effect...
 
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fmak

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Jul 27, 2024
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I got 200k last year, since I received that life has been spiraling I was not seeking happiness within the money but it did lead to my girlfriend breaking up with me, losing my job. Plus my depression was masked prior of getting the money now I am in a horrendous state where nothing can make me happy but death
It's sad how life situations differ, that much money and still things not working, For me just 2k is enough to turn my life around. I'm suffering depression because of lack of money like literally $0 and creditors are hounding me, rent unpaid, each tym i see a car pull up I sink further fearing they have come to evict me. ;-;
 
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notsohpy

notsohpy

Member
Aug 18, 2024
15
I get it, money doesn't literally buy happiness, but it depends on what your definition of happiness is. 99% of people's definition of happiness is something that you have to pay for. Like if you have to travel anywhere to feel happy you are spending money in some capacity. Whoever says that money can't buy happiness literally doesn't know what life is like without money. If you don't have a lot of money, then having money will make you happy, but if you have been in an environment where you've had money all of your life, then it won't buy happiness. I'd rather be unhappy on a private jet than trying to worry about rent.
I have the best Job in my area and earn Like 3times as much as my Friends/parents but Never ever dis i think about doing it then now. Money only buys temporary happines is what i learned.
 
Lady Laudanum

Lady Laudanum

Here for a bad time, not a long time
May 9, 2024
883
Sure, money can't buy happiness, but poverty can't buy anything
 
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Imcantbreathe

Member
Aug 19, 2024
33
It's sad how life situations differ, that much money and still things not working, For me just 2k is enough to turn my life around. I'm suffering depression because of lack of money like literally $0 and creditors are hounding me, rent unpaid, each tym i see a car pull up I sink further fearing they have come to evict me. ;-;
I do hope & wish things get better for you
 
Zhendou

Zhendou

Alive
Sep 17, 2022
108
Money buys comfort, not always happiness. There are so many people that were wealthy that killed themselves. If they were happy, they would have been still alive. However, it is still better to have money than be broke.
 
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Morte

Morte

Specialist
Nov 23, 2023
377
Money can buy quick satisfactions and short-term happiness, but lasting happiness cannot be bought with money.
 
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loslassen

loslassen

call me jvne
Dec 8, 2023
162
It's sad how life situations differ, that much money and still things not working, For me just 2k is enough to turn my life around. I'm suffering depression because of lack of money like literally $0 and creditors are hounding me, rent unpaid, each tym i see a car pull up I sink further fearing they have come to evict me. ;-;
relatable
 
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