Venting Long ahh vent about life/death

[TooManyChances]

Don't you find it odd that most animals die so easily? Even as pets they only live a few years, maybe a couple decades at most. Exceptions exist such as whales, jellyfish and tortoises, but mostly, animals don't have a long life at all.

And here we are. We the damn humans living up to the 100s (mind you, we are animals too). Even when lifespan was shorter prehistorically it was because of high death among young people bringing down the average. Us adults are painfully good at surviving. SI and perception of pain only makes this worse.

So if we live so long, why the actual f*** do we have to deal with so much mental suffering, painful physical conditions, emptiness, boredom?

If you think about it, life requires very specific things. We need blood, minerals, right temperature, water, a heart beating for us, respiratory muscles on auto mode, etc. Non-living things are infinitely more common than living beings in this unverse. So why is dead so hard to achieve? Or better yet, why do we care so much about stuff that won't matter in 80+ years? Our brains are wired so crudely.

When I think of my family I feel bad cause they will have to deal with my loss (if I ever ctb), that's why I try not to think about it. Instead, I imagine myself in the mountains, or watching the moonlight just passing away from natural causes (eg. my heart stops beating forever). My dream is to drift off and never have to worry about anything ever again.

But noooo, we can't have any of that. That's why there's a whole forum on how to ctb. I still appreciate it tho. Thanks everyone.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I'm not sure it's so much to do with our biology. I think it's more advances in healthcare/ medicine/ hygienne. Plus, societal pressure to keep everyone alive (and working preferably- to them.)

If we were living in the wild, it seems likely we would die much younger. Even a bad tooth infection can kill in the wild. Even with very strong SI, without vaccinnes, antibiotics, medical intervention, warmth, clean water, I reckon we'd be dieing in droves.

I'd also argue that our SI is somewhat influenced by reasoning. Many people who strongly wish to suicide are put off by the methods available to them. That either look too painful or too unreliable or, both. Many don't want the negative consequences of failing an attempt. So, it's by no means a 'free' choice. We're not only battling our own SI, we're up against society itself which sees it as wrong and does all it can to prevent it.

Maybe we're not so different to pets in a way. They don't exactly get the choice on when they die. Their owners will keep them alive possibly against their will and, vice versa. It's always muder wwhen an animal is put down. They didn't agree to it.

Life spans are certainly odd though. I guess it must be to do with evolution- as to when it is most effective for that being to die. Probably relating to their reproductive and parenting capabilities.

But, we've simply by passed a lot of 'natural laws'. We see 'natural selection' as cruel. We help the weak to survive. Talk about weeding out 'weaker' genes looks too much like eugenics and all the problems that comes with. We medically induce pregnancy via IVF if it can't be done naturally. We fight off pandemics and illnesses. Replace failing organs, prolong life- whether the person wants it or not. At least we have DNR orders I suppose. That's something. But, we seem a very long way from being 'natural' animals now. I suppose psychologically too. Many of us try to ignore death. We might even be convinced that we don't in fact die. That religion makes us immortal. That seems almost funny to me- if it's wrong that is. If the religious have it right, I don't know. I'm dreading another unwanted life to 'live'.

 

[Pale_Rider]

I'm not sure it's so much to do with our biology. I think it's more advances in healthcare/ medicine/ hygienne. Plus, societal pressure to keep everyone alive (and working preferably- to them.)

If we were living in the wild, it seems likely we would die much younger. Even a bad tooth infection can kill in the wild. Even with very strong SI, without vaccinnes, antibiotics, medical intervention, warmth, clean water, I reckon we'd be dieing in droves.

I'd also argue that our SI is somewhat influenced by reasoning. Many people who strongly wish to suicide are put off by the methods available to them. That either look too painful or too unreliable or, both. Many don't want the negative consequences of failing an attempt. So, it's by no means a 'free' choice. We're not only battling our own SI, we're up against society itself which sees it as wrong and does all it can to prevent it.

Maybe we're not so different to pets in a way. They don't exactly get the choice on when they die. Their owners will keep them alive possibly against their will and, vice versa. It's always muder wwhen an animal is put down. They didn't agree to it.

Life spans are certainly odd though. I guess it must be to do with evolution- as to when it is most effective for that being to die. Probably relating to their reproductive and parenting capabilities.

But, we've simply by passed a lot of 'natural laws'. We see 'natural selection' as cruel. We help the weak to survive. Talk about weeding out 'weaker' genes looks too much like eugenics and all the problems that comes with. We medically induce pregnancy via IVF if it can't be done naturally. We fight off pandemics and illnesses. Replace failing organs, prolong life- whether the person wants it or not. At least we have DNR orders I suppose. That's something. But, we seem a very long way from being 'natural' animals now. I suppose psychologically too. Many of us try to ignore death. We might even be convinced that we don't in fact die. That religion makes us immortal. That seems almost funny to me- if it's wrong that is. If the religious have it right, I don't know. I'm dreading another unwanted life to 'live'.

Made me think about that film a million ways to die in the west.