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IndictEvolution

IndictEvolution

VegAntinatalist
Jun 28, 2024
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I am an abolitionist vegan, antinatalist/efilist, and negative utilitarian. This shit makes it impossible to relate to literally 99.9% of humans, not an exaggerated number, and I don't fucking care. Humans suck. All this capacity for intelligent thought, and all of it either not utilized at all, or utilized to increase suffering on this planet for personal gains. Fuck fitting in and fuck lowering your standards to make yourself feel better. People can call it "self harm" all they want, but it's really just an unwillingness to accept the shit sandwich this CULTure has been trying to force feed me since I was a child. Like I said in title, I'm glad I'm not tethered to this garbage ass existence. My best friend who had same level of standards as me recently got the fuck out of here, and that was the last thing tethering me here. I'll be out of here in about a week, finally.
 
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Withered

Withered

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Sour grapes? Not a pejorative but a genuine question.
 
leloyon

leloyon

I'll see you in the Wired.
Feb 4, 2023
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"The powers that be will blame extremists and I may well be one, yes I may well be one..."
Anyway I honestly don't care about such things, I mean a community of like-minded individuals would be nice and all but ultimately, I know why I hold the beliefs I hold and whether a million people agree with me or if I stand alone makes no significant difference to me. After all, I'm too damaged to make friends anyway, damaged by the very things that made me form these opinions.
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IndictEvolution

IndictEvolution

VegAntinatalist
Jun 28, 2024
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Sour grapes? Not a pejorative but a genuine question.
This doesn't make any sense. If I wanted all this shit I could have it. I've done my best in life to avoid all the stupid addictions people fall into. I'm not saying I've avoided them all, but I've avoided a shit ton of them. Even as a kid I was not interested in "new experiences" and all this shit. Hated people trying to drag me to places like disneyland etc. The life loving rapists just can't take no for a fucking answer.
 
Withered

Withered

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Apr 9, 2025
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This doesn't make any sense. If I wanted all this shit I could have it. I've done my best in life to avoid all the stupid addictions people fall into. I'm not saying I've avoided them all, but I've avoided a shit ton of them. Even as a kid I was not interested in "new experiences" and all this shit. Hated people trying to drag me to places like disneyland etc. The life loving rapists just can't take no for a fucking answer.
My point is the following. You are indicating to me that you are so far removed from "the rest of humanity" philosophically and via your experiences that a sense of (re)integration for you is basically impossible. You are also using emotionally-fueled superlative and generalizing phrases to overexaggerate the tendency of the world toward disorder. Given this and other bits, it's reasonable---I think likely, too---for a person in your situation to be such that they choose to try to comfort themselves with the fact that they don't want that (re)integration anyway in contrast to previous attempts at socialization, which are inherent to the human psyche and, for you, evident in you saying "I'm not saying I've avoided them all." That is definitionally sour grapes.

Just something to think about. Not saying that it applies to you. I just think it's likely. Also,

If I wanted all this shit I could have it.
But you don't! Vacuously true antecedents do nothing beneficial for logical implication.
 
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Paizen

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Feb 5, 2025
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Shout it from the rooftops... my god I wish I could this whole thing my bio on all social medias
 
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Neuron.exe

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My point is the following. You are indicating to me that you are so far removed from "the rest of humanity" philosophically and via your experiences that a sense of (re)integration for you is basically impossible. You are also using emotionally-fueled superlative and generalizing phrases to overexaggerate the tendency of the world toward disorder. Given this and other bits, it's reasonable---I think likely, too---for a person in your situation to be such that they choose to try to comfort themselves with the fact that they don't want that (re)integration anyway in contrast to previous attempts at socialization, which are inherent to the human psyche and, for you, evident in you saying "I'm not saying I've avoided them all." That is definitionally sour grapes.

Just something to think about. Not saying that it applies to you. I just think it's likely. Also,


But you don't! Vacuously true antecedents do nothing beneficial for logical implication.

My point is the following. You are indicating to me that you are so far removed from "the rest of humanity" philosophically and via your experiences that a sense of (re)integration for you is basically impossible. You are also using emotionally-fueled superlative and generalizing phrases to overexaggerate the tendency of the world toward disorder. Given this and other bits, it's reasonable---I think likely, too---for a person in your situation to be such that they choose to try to comfort themselves with the fact that they don't want that (re)integration anyway in contrast to previous attempts at socialization, which are inherent to the human psyche and, for you, evident in you saying "I'm not saying I've avoided them all." That is definitionally sour grapes.

Just something to think about. Not saying that it applies to you. I just think it's likely. Also,


But you don't! Vacuously true antecedents do nothing beneficial for logical implication.
You're suggesting that the desire to fit in is a natural human impulse, and that when someone fails to do so, they may subconsciously adopt the belief that they don't want to fit in as a coping mechanism. That could very well be true. But it's also possible for someone to consciously decide that fitting in is meaningless or even foolish—regardless of whether they actually succeed at it. Even someone who easily fits in might come to that conclusion on philosophical grounds.

In this case, he claims he could fit in if he chose to, but refrains due to certain philosophical beliefs—beliefs whose origin we don't fully understand. So even if his stance is, in part, a form of self-protection, what practical effect does recognizing that have? If someone genuinely struggles to belong despite sincere effort, does this kind of psychological insight help them move forward—perhaps encouraging further attempts at connection and growth? Or does it deepen the sense of alienation and make things worse?
 
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