I think I found the actual easy way to reduce sodium nitrate into sn without lab equipment

[the_sugar_buzz]

Okay first I wanna apologize for being kinda scattered but I am newly learning chemistry, and I don't want to make suggestions without the double checking the method first, but if the info I got is correct, you can reduce nitrate into nitrite needing heat or any laboratory equipment by reducing it with zinc powder and a piece of copper as a catalyst and stirring it (at room temperature for about an hour as the reaction takes place.
I really need to find someone with chemistry knowledge who won't act like a gatekeeper or feign concern about my motive. I will figure this out. If this method is legitimate, It seems crazy that online everyone only shows the complicated, temperature specific method that is also seemingly more high maintenance. I do wanna say that I don't recommend anyone automatically take my advice until completely verified which I am working on currently, and will keep everyone posted on the update. I cannot stay much longer. I feel like a soap opera character who just won't die (or keeps coming back from the dead) and I am ready to depart.
I don't wanna give anyone bad advice or incorrect information but it is really hard to find consistent information online. What's making me have a little doubt is that I have corrected AI already or pointed out flaws in its advice that is crucial to the experiment. I personally would be extra cautious about my previous post using alum powder or aluminum powder (they are not even related to each other) and aluminum is very reactive and can become violent which AI didn't initially tell me. Also for this room temperature method, i was looking at other sources of information about it and learned that using ammonia to balance the ph of the water the nitrate is dissolved in is crucial and corrected it about that which is concerning to me. I'm trying to reach out to actual human chemists for their feedback and will be updating this post very soon with a no more definitive answer on this. I'll probably delete the aluminum powder method because I would prefer to find a way that isn't so complicated that regular people like us can do it without feeling like it will cause Chernobyl 2.0 haha. AI has repeatedly reassured me that the zinc method is absolutely not explosive or violent but is it just kissing my ass and patronizing me? Ugh this is kinda maddening

 

[Intoxicated]

Okay first I wanna apologize for being kinda scattered but I am newly learning chemistry, and I don't want to make suggestions without the double checking the method first, but if the info I got is correct, you can reduce nitrate into nitrite needing heat or any laboratory equipment by reducing it with zinc powder and a piece of copper as a catalyst and stirring it (at room temperature for about an hour as the reaction takes place.

You wanna conduct a reaction between two solid substances using a solid catalyst? What bright mind suggested you that?

 

[the_sugar_buzz]

You wanna conduct a reaction between two solid substances using a solid catalyst? What bright mind suggested you that?

No I would first alkalize the water using a pinch of baking soda then dissolve the nitrate in the water and drop in a copper scouring pad (and this is legitimate science as a catalyst because it has more surface area to do something with ions as part of the reaction) then I would gradually stir in zinc powder in the measurements and continuously stir it for 45 minutes to an hour but apparently the yellowish tint happens during this time. Then it's filtered and crystallized. This is seeming to be pretty legit chemistry advice so far although I have to see it before I will believe it and so I gotta come up with some cash for zinc powder

 

[Intoxicated]

This is seeming to be pretty legit chemistry advice so far

Advise from an unnamed source? LLMs can't be trusted, and I don't even see any chemical equations here. So far this looks like a sort of alchemy. "Legit chemistry" should be based on trustworthy evidences. For instance, when I say that CO can be produced using citric acid and concentrated sulfuric acid, I can refer to a part of a real chemistry book that describes the reaction:

THE DECOMPOSITION OF CITRIC ACID BY SULFURIC ACID | 10.1021/ja01375a013_Science Hub

tesble.com

and a video where such a reaction was conducted: View attachment 184628

In case of sodium nitrite, even if by some miracle you manage to produce it, how would you measure its purity and suitability for CTB? And would all the effort needed for producing and testing the purity of SN be worth it, considering that there are alternative very effective lethal chemicals, which can be obtained with a comparable or less effort?

 

[the_sugar_buzz]

And so what could go wrong? Oops I created N instead of sn . As long as my problem gets solved I will take what I can get. Which is why I do keep trying to reiterate that I am still researching and trying to figure out if the things I am learning are legit because the whole Internet search is AI now. That's kinda what makes me think that there is legitimacy in this method because I have gotten

Advise from an unnamed source? LLMs can't be trusted, and I don't even see any chemical equations here. So far this looks like a sort of alchemy. "Legit chemistry" should be based on trustworthy evidences. For instance, when I say that CO can be produced using citric acid and concentrated sulfuric acid, I can refer to a part of a real chemistry book that describes the reaction:

THE DECOMPOSITION OF CITRIC ACID BY SULFURIC ACID | 10.1021/ja01375a013_Science Hub

tesble.com

and a video where such a reaction was conducted: View attachment 184628

In case of sodium nitrite, even if by some miracle you manage to produce it, how would you measure its purity and suitability for CTB? And would all the effort needed for producing and testing the purity of SN be worth it, considering that there are alternative very effective lethal chemicals, which can be obtained with a comparable or less effort?

Test strips and I have hydrochloric acid and I'm trying to

Advise from an unnamed source? LLMs can't be trusted, and I don't even see any chemical equations here. So far this looks like a sort of alchemy. "Legit chemistry" should be based on trustworthy evidences. For instance, when I say that CO can be produced using citric acid and concentrated sulfuric acid, I can refer to a part of a real chemistry book that describes the reaction:

THE DECOMPOSITION OF CITRIC ACID BY SULFURIC ACID | 10.1021/ja01375a013_Science Hub

tesble.com

and a video where such a reaction was conducted: View attachment 184628

In case of sodium nitrite, even if by some miracle you manage to produce it, how would you measure its purity and suitability for CTB? And would all the effort needed for producing and testing the purity of SN be worth it, considering that there are alternative very effective lethal chemicals, which can be obtained with a comparable or less effort?

Source: National Institutes of Health (.gov) https://share.google/lWI5g4hSA0MTadJei

Knock yourself out. I am not a stupid person. I'm also not someone who believes any bullshit. I don't trust anything anymore but I think this should shut down argument and this is one of many college and chemistry documents about it etc

And so what could go wrong? Oops I created N instead of sn . As long as my problem gets solved I will take what I can get. Which is why I do keep trying to reiterate that I am still researching and trying to figure out if the things I am learning are legit because the whole Internet search is AI now. That's kinda what makes me think that there is legitimacy in this method because I have gotten

Test strips and I have hydrochloric acid and I'm trying to

Source: National Institutes of Health (.gov) https://share.google/lWI5g4hSA0MTadJei

Knock yourself out. I am not a stupid person. I'm also not someone who believes any bullshit. I don't trust anything anymore but I think this should shut down argument and this is one of many college and chemistry documents about it etc

Organic Syntheses Procedure https://share.google/UjbcMnu32HAMNMM1J

Is this enough because I can keep going. I don't understand why some people on here like to sew fear and doubt when the unknown is freaky enough as it is. I'm trying to ctb, not win a Pulitzer prize and I as long I am hoping that explaining my method without a bunch of equations and hard to acquire equipment is what makes people fear trying this. Or it just confuses them. You don't to identify each chemical by the periodic table
I have made soda carbonate by thermal decomposition of baking soda and it noticeably changed the properties of the baking soda because I accidentally used some to brush my teeth and it was heating up. Don't hate on me for being proactive and not needing a goddamn chemist to figure it out because it is not impossible to do it. With minimal equipment or some research into basic chemistry principles etc like stoichiometric measurements and for me it's about finding an understanding of how this mechanism works without the equations and conversion rates. It's like reading a Russian novel. I might not pronounce the long ass names of every character but I know immediately who each one is by sight.

And so what could go wrong? Oops I created N instead of sn . As long as my problem gets solved I will take what I can get. Which is why I do keep trying to reiterate that I am still researching and trying to figure out if the things I am learning are legit because the whole Internet search is AI now. That's kinda what makes me think that there is legitimacy in this method because I have gotten

Test strips and I have hydrochloric acid and I'm trying to

Source: National Institutes of Health (.gov) https://share.google/lWI5g4hSA0MTadJei

Knock yourself out. I am not a stupid person. I'm also not someone who believes any bullshit. I don't trust anything anymore but I think this should shut down argument and this is one of many college and chemistry documents about it etc

Organic Syntheses Procedure https://share.google/UjbcMnu32HAMNMM1J

Is this enough because I can keep going. I don't understand why some people on here like to sew fear and doubt when the unknown is freaky enough as it is. I'm trying to ctb, not win a Pulitzer prize and I as long I am hoping that explaining my method without a bunch of equations and hard to acquire equipment is what makes people fear trying this. Or it just confuses them. You don't to identify each chemical by the periodic table
I have made soda carbonate by thermal decomposition of baking soda and it noticeably changed the properties of the baking soda because I accidentally used some to brush my teeth and it was heating up. Don't hate on me for being proactive and not needing a goddamn chemist to figure it out because it is not impossible to do it. With minimal equipment or some research into basic chemistry principles etc like stoichiometric measurements and for me it's about finding an understanding of how this mechanism works without the equations and conversion rates. It's like reading a Russian novel. I might not pronounce the long ass names of every character but I know immediately who each one is by sight.

Advise from an unnamed source? LLMs can't be trusted, and I don't even see any chemical equations here. So far this looks like a sort of alchemy. "Legit chemistry" should be based on trustworthy evidences. For instance, when I say that CO can be produced using citric acid and concentrated sulfuric acid, I can refer to a part of a real chemistry book that describes the reaction:

THE DECOMPOSITION OF CITRIC ACID BY SULFURIC ACID | 10.1021/ja01375a013_Science Hub

tesble.com

and a video where such a reaction was conducted: View attachment 184628

In case of sodium nitrite, even if by some miracle you manage to produce it, how would you measure its purity and suitability for CTB? And would all the effort needed for producing and testing the purity of SN be worth it, considering that there are alternative very effective lethal chemicals, which can be obtained with a comparable or less effort?

I don't mean to be so hard on you for your questions or doubts. I have been going through it because I really do not trust anything and not every AI will even talk about this at all. Chat gpt won't, manus started to and verified it but then stopped answering the questions because of restrictions so that's interesting. I copied this method and fact checked it with non bot sources and you say it's easier to obtain sn without the cost of everything else well nobody will give a verifiable source and so far my searches require proof of scientific use like a commercial address etc. The only thing I have to purchase is $17 zinc powder and I have everything else. Can I get pure sn online for $17? I'm being kinda sarcastic because I know better than to expect anyone to to give their sources or ask for them but since thqy is the case, this is my only real option. It would be Great to just be able to order enough without the stress but I have to ctb soon. I cannot fuck around and hope for help to make it happen. I'll help myself like I always have had to. And to be clear, since I really don't know how else to figure this out, it has really been also kinda rewarding learning some of the things I have the past two weeks about the chemistry and the mechanisms that make it work

 

[the_sugar_buzz]

Advise from an unnamed source? LLMs can't be trusted, and I don't even see any chemical equations here. So far this looks like a sort of alchemy. "Legit chemistry" should be based on trustworthy evidences. For instance, when I say that CO can be produced using citric acid and concentrated sulfuric acid, I can refer to a part of a real chemistry book that describes the reaction:

THE DECOMPOSITION OF CITRIC ACID BY SULFURIC ACID | 10.1021/ja01375a013_Science Hub

tesble.com

and a video where such a reaction was conducted: View attachment 184628

In case of sodium nitrite, even if by some miracle you manage to produce it, how would you measure its purity and suitability for CTB? And would all the effort needed for producing and testing the purity of SN be worth it, considering that there are alternative very effective lethal chemicals, which can be obtained with a comparable or less effort?

This article is kinda peaking my interest (the one you sent) because also within that chat where I was brainstorming alternative ways to do this, it mentioned both of the chemicals in this article. I actually have sulfuric acid and was going to use it to verify the presence of nitrite after the reduction because nitrite reacts more dramatically to it than nitrate and I didn't really go into the citric acid suggestion but I wonder. Believe me man, I have been obsessively double and triple checking this because AI is fucking weird and patronizing and overly agreeable but the chat bot I am using is all right as of now but seriously, you're right I am doing crash course chemistry in a way, but I have corrected it and pointed out an aspect of the reduction that it left out (the importance of the ph of the solution that the mixture is stirred in. And I am honestly trying to learn as much as I can now because I wouldn't be surprised if this chatbot doesn't even give the information beyond technical details very soon because several other chatbots refuse outright and one that i tried last night that is specifically for chemistry stopped after it did also agree with the method I want to try but I am not trying to mess anything up because thanks to my everlasting paranoia, I double checked a mistake I made in the last method I was considering with aluminum powder (that's a nope for me. I'm not a fan of big flashes and shit) but I had confused alum powder and aluminum powder and ai went along with it without correcting it and that could have been disastrous if i didn't look further before jumping in to that. I corrected it then too and I also found it strange that it is giving me an almost "too easy to be true" method after we went through iron reduction, lead, calcium sulfite which would have absolutely cost too much because they require strict temperature control at all times and are much more active and dramatic and high maintenance. So it's wild that all the chemists online that I can find, prefer to stick with the most lab friendly methods because chemistry is something that is important to be very precise. I will also recrystallize it two times or even three because it becomes lab grade that way while losing a little yield but I have like a kilo of nitrate and the determination to diy my bus ride. Almost 900mgs of morphine failed me last summer. I'm tired of feeling unable to catch the bus because that makes zero fucking sense and I don't blame anyone who doubts it because it's not normal. Maybe just a fluke but I have my fingers crossed this won't be haha. Sorry for the long winded responses . and for getting heated at first with your questions and it's weird because I haven't really had an interest in anything this strong in such a long time.

This article is kinda peaking my interest (the one you sent) because also within that chat where I was brainstorming alternative ways to do this, it mentioned both of the chemicals in this article. I actually have sulfuric acid and was going to use it to verify the presence of nitrite after the reduction because nitrite reacts more dramatically to it than nitrate and I didn't really go into the citric acid suggestion but I wonder. Believe me man, I have been obsessively double and triple checking this because AI is fucking weird and patronizing and overly agreeable but the chat bot I am using is all right as of now but seriously, you're right I am doing crash course chemistry in a way, but I have corrected it and pointed out an aspect of the reduction that it left out (the importance of the ph of the solution that the mixture is stirred in. And I am honestly trying to learn as much as I can now because I wouldn't be surprised if this chatbot doesn't even give the information beyond technical details very soon because several other chatbots refuse outright and one that i tried last night that is specifically for chemistry stopped after it did also agree with the method I want to try but I am not trying to mess anything up because thanks to my everlasting paranoia, I double checked a mistake I made in the last method I was considering with aluminum powder (that's a nope for me. I'm not a fan of big flashes and shit) but I had confused alum powder and aluminum powder and ai went along with it without correcting it and that could have been disastrous if i didn't look further before jumping in to that. I corrected it then too and I also found it strange that it is giving me an almost "too easy to be true" method after we went through iron reduction, lead, calcium sulfite which would have absolutely cost too much because they require strict temperature control at all times and are much more active and dramatic and high maintenance. So it's wild that all the chemists online that I can find, prefer to stick with the most lab friendly methods because chemistry is something that is important to be very precise. I will also recrystallize it two times or even three because it becomes lab grade that way while losing a little yield but I have like a kilo of nitrate and the determination to diy my bus ride. Almost 900mgs of morphine failed me last summer. I'm tired of feeling unable to catch the bus because that makes zero fucking sense and I don't blame anyone who doubts it because it's not normal. Maybe just a fluke but I have my fingers crossed this won't be haha. Sorry for the long winded responses . and for getting heated at first with your questions and it's weird because I haven't really had an interest in anything this strong in such a long time.

Oh one last thing that made me consider that an off grid setup for this process was obviously being used because it has been used to cure meat forever and probably before Bunsen burners and thermometers so maybe sometimes even though it might sound too good to be true or too simple does not mean it is impossible. These chemists online aren't really trying to teach regular people this stuff and while everything in chemistry must be precise for good or any results, and definitely getting some sort of understanding of the process and the chemicals and the roles that they play together. Even through analogy if equations aren't your thing. everyone I have seen making videos of the reduction already have lab grade equipment so why would they even go through all the extra steps like i will. Those videos while very helpful really aren't the most realistic for everyday people. And I'm hell-bent on finding alternative ways Also like I mentioned I will probably have to make more than one batch and recrystallize it two or three times to purify it which does reduce the yield but I'm not worried about that because I have enough to be able to. But why would anybody with lab equipment go through all that plus the loss that comes with it to purify it when they can get it all in one shot with less steps) it just makes me wonder

 

[Intoxicated]

And so what could go wrong? Oops I created N instead of sn .

Wasting money on getting too low yield of SN would be a more likely outcome, IMO.

Test strips

What's the precision of this method? Suppose we have a sample that contains either 50% SN or 99% SN. Can you or an average forum user easily determine whether it's actually 50% or 99% by using test strips? I guess, this shouldn't be too hard if you have a reference sample of 95 - 99.9% SN, so you could judge by a visible difference between the two samples. But if a reference sample of a known purity is unavailable, you have to rely on the provided color table, and this is where some people have difficulties with finding the right color match.

and I have hydrochloric acid

This may be good for a quality test (revealing that nitrite is present), but I can't recall quantitative nitrite tests that could be performed with HCl.

I don't understand why some people on here like to sew fear and doubt when the unknown is freaky enough as it is.

We already had some "mad scientists" who proposed novel approaches at making SN. One of them, for example, suggested to reduce sodium nitrate by hydrogen peroxide )) The idea was

NaNO₃ + H₂O₂ → NaNO₂ + H₂O + O₂

And the argumentation was like "why not?"

I'm trying to ctb, not win a Pulitzer prize and I as long I am hoping that explaining my method without a bunch of equations and hard to acquire equipment is what makes people fear trying this. Or it just confuses them.

Your post was seemingly addressed to chemists, and chemical equations are the root of understanding chemical reactions. The rate of the reaction is also a very important thing. It's not enough to just have a possibility to reduce a nitrate to a nitrite by zinc; the desirable yield of the nitrite should be achievable within a reasonable time.

 

[8hsjyd]

I agree with another poster here that these efforts are unlikely to succeed when initiated by those without sufficient formal education in chemistry. Typically, chemists undergo years of stringent university level education supplemented by hundreds to thousands of pages of academic textbooks; this is difficult to impart- much less quickly- on casual hobbyists. Relying on AI is very unlikely to be successful as AI is notorious for hallucinating terribly in complex scientific matters, especially when one lacks the appropriate background knowledge to correct its mistakes and to guide it along certain pathways of empirically validated thought.

While individuals are welcome to do what they wish in their personal time, I don't think that its responsible to post vague and misunderstood chemical reactions for other people to emulate when no formal proof of efficacy is offered. Chemicals, when not created properly or when not entirely understood, can result in non-lethal but nevertheless extremely painful reactions when ingested or handled.

 

[the_sugar_buzz]

Obviously you didn't read the two ary articles I linked from reputable sources and I'm not forcing anyone to try anything but from every angle I have searched, this method is legitimate and I honestly don't know what it is with you people who think everyone needs to be a scientist to figure shit out. When people discuss overdosing as a method, do you think lethal doses or cocktails should only be suggested by a doctor? What's the point or people commenting with all your doubt because unless this is a method you are considering, you could easily fact check this yourself but no, god forbid someone actually look into how zinc, sodium nitrate, and a copper catalyst without heat (that's called an exothermic reaction) is a popular method of reducing sodium nitrate into sodium nitrite

I agree with another poster here that these efforts are unlikely to succeed when initiated by those without sufficient formal education in chemistry. Typically, chemists undergo years of stringent university level education supplemented by hundreds to thousands of pages of academic textbooks; this is difficult to impart- much less quickly- on casual hobbyists. Relying on AI is very unlikely to Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0lbe successful as AI is notorious for hallucinating terribly in complex scientific matters, especially when one lacks the appropriate background knowledge to correct its mistakes and to guide it along certain pathways of empirically validated thought.

While individuals are welcome to do what they wish in their personal time, I don't think that its responsible to post vague and misunderstood chemical reactions for other people to emulate when no formal proof of efficacy is offered. Chemicals, when not created properly or when not entirely understood, can result in non-lethal but nevertheless extremely painful reactions when ingested or handled.

Obviously you didn't read the two ary articles I linked from reputable sources and I'm not forcing anyone to try anything but from every angle I have searched, this method is legitimate and I honestly don't know what it is with you people who think everyone needs to be a scientist to figure shit out. When people discuss overdosing as a method, do you think lethal doses or cocktails should only be suggested by a doctor? What's the point or people commenting with all your doubt because unless this is a method you are considering, you could easily fact check this yourself but no, god forbid someone actually look into how zinc, sodium nitrate, and a copper catalyst without heat (that's called an exothermic reaction) is a popular method of reducing sodium nitrate into sodium nitrite

Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0l

I agree with another poster here that these efforts are unlikely to succeed when initiated by those without sufficient formal education in chemistry. Typically, chemists undergo years of stringent university level education supplemented by hundreds to thousands of pages of academic textbooks; this is difficult to impart- much less quickly- on casual hobbyists. Relying on AI is very unlikely to Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0lbe successful as AI is notorious for hallucinating terribly in complex scientific matters, especially when one lacks the appropriate background knowledge to correct its mistakes and to guide it along certain pathways of empirically validated thought.

While individuals are welcome to do what they wish in their personal time, I don't think that its responsible to post vague and misunderstood chemical reactions for other people to emulate when no formal proof of efficacy is offered. Chemicals, when not created properly or when not entirely understood, can result in non-lethal but nevertheless extremely painful reactions when ingested or handled.

Obviously you didn't read the two ary articles I linked from reputable sources and I'm not forcing anyone to try anything but from every angle I have searched, this method is legitimate and I honestly don't know what it is with you people who think everyone needs to be a scientist to figure shit out. When people discuss overdosing as a method, do you think lethal doses or cocktails should only be suggested by a doctor? What's the point or people commenting with all your doubt because unless this is a method you are considering, you could easily fact check this yourself but no, god forbid someone actually look into how zinc, sodium nitrate, and a copper catalyst without heat (that's called an exothermic reaction) is a popular method of reducing sodium nitrate into sodium nitrite

Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0l

I agree with another poster here that these efforts are unlikely to succeed when initiated by those without sufficient formal education in chemistry. Typically, chemists undergo years of stringent university level education supplemented by hundreds to thousands of pages of academic textbooks; this is difficult to impart- much less quickly- on casual hobbyists. Relying on AI is very unlikely to Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0lbe successful as AI is notorious for hallucinating terribly in complex scientific matters, especially when one lacks the appropriate background knowledge to correct its mistakes and to guide it along certain pathways of empirically validated thought.

While individuals are welcome to do what they wish in their personal time, I don't think that its responsible to post vague and misunderstood chemical reactions for other people to emulate when no formal proof of efficacy is offered. Chemicals, when not created properly or when not entirely understood, can result in non-lethal but nevertheless extremely painful reactions when ingested or handled.

Obviously you didn't read the two ary articles I linked from reputable sources and I'm not forcing anyone to try anything but from every angle I have searched, this method is legitimate and I honestly don't know what it is with you people who think everyone needs to be a scientist to figure shit out. When people discuss overdosing as a method, do you think lethal doses or cocktails should only be suggested by a doctor? What's the point or people commenting with all your doubt because unless this is a method you are considering, you could easily fact check this yourself but no, god forbid someone actually look into how zinc, sodium nitrate, and a copper catalyst without heat (that's called an exothermic reaction) is a popular method of reducing sodium nitrate into sodium nitrite

Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0l

Obviously you didn't read the two ary articles I linked from reputable sources and I'm not forcing anyone to try anything but from every angle I have searched, this method is legitimate and I honestly don't know what it is with you people who think everyone needs to be a scientist to figure shit out. When people discuss overdosing as a method, do you think lethal doses or cocktails should only be suggested by a doctor? What's the point or people commenting with all your doubt because unless this is a method you are considering, you could easily fact check this yourself but no, god forbid someone actually look into how zinc, sodium nitrate, and a copper catalyst without heat (that's called an exothermic reaction) is a popular method of reducing sodium nitrate into sodium nitrite



Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0l



Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0l

Nitrate Reduction Test - Principle, Procedure, Uses and Interpretation https://share.google/YQHsOSWznxJyFvnTH

Obviously you didn't read the two ary articles I linked from reputable sources and I'm not forcing anyone to try anything but from every angle I have searched, this method is legitimate and I honestly don't know what it is with you people who think everyone needs to be a scientist to figure shit out. When people discuss overdosing as a method, do you think lethal doses or cocktails should only be suggested by a doctor? What's the point or people commenting with all your doubt because unless this is a method you are considering, you could easily fact check this yourself but no, god forbid someone actually look into how zinc, sodium nitrate, and a copper catalyst without heat (that's called an exothermic reaction) is a popular method of reducing sodium nitrate into sodium nitrite



Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0l



Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0l



Source: SCIRP Open Access https://share.google/78NVNUENXpJSMZh0l

Nitrate Reduction Test - Principle, Procedure, Uses and Interpretation https://share.google/YQHsOSWznxJyFvnTH

Modification and validation of an analytical method for the simple determination of nitrate in seawater by reduction to nitrite with zinc powder - ScienceDirect https://share.google/wTsVsK77g5ILfmkF2
Just because some of you are afraid to figure shit out on your own doesn't make everyone else like that. And NOBODY is on here as a hobby. This is not just me doing a goddamn science fair project so don't refer to me as a hobbyist ever again and maybe start actually using all that negative energy to research shit instead of automatically acting like a public safety officer.