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Emissary of the right to die.
- Aug 30, 2018
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This isn't necessarily a new idea or topic, but it is still important and worth discussing too, which is the fact that CTB'ing is not always a tragic thing, even outside of terminal illnesses. From the pro-choice perspective and point of view, one exiting on one's own terms, is a strong act of bodily autonomy and preservation of one's dignity as well as preventing oneself from suffering unnecessarily. It is also the ultimate rejection of (potential) future harm.
There are many other benefits of CTB'ing on one's own terms that isn't necessarily tragic and from the pro-choice perspective it outweighs the harms incurred by said person. Almost every human being sentient will at some point, have or had worked (or even continued to work) as long as they live, especially the vast majority of the human species. By CTB'ing, especially sooner than later, they end up avoiding wageslaving for many decades (possibly longer for those who were born in the late 80's or even early 90's. As someone such as myself, who ended up wage slaving in the past 5-6 years, with at least over 3 years of continuous employment, I cannot foresee myself wageslaving to support a society that goes against my values and what not. My copes do last me for a while, but not indefinite. So assuming that one leaves sooner than natural age, which is the life expectancy being around 80 years of age, chronologically speaking, notwithstanding diseases, ailments, and/or other causes (man-made disasters, natural disasters, etc.). The absence of more than the majority of one's lifespans may miss some fleeting joys, but also avoid many of the undesirable events that one encounters throughout one's own life.
Additionally, on the point of wageslaving, many pro-lifers and even the State lament it because it is decades of less taxes from the individual, potentially tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue. As for the economics and the system, possibly millions in generated income that is gone from just an individual. It makes sense WHY the State and society is so hellbent being against CTB, but in the end, if someone really despises the system, if one does CTB, they effectively stop feeding in the same abusive power structures that enslave and oppress said individual. While others opt for change, it is mostly empty talk, because it means that one just keeps pushing for change that may/not come in one's lifetime. Sure, while there are some hardy people that will constantly push for such change, it is not guaranteed and may be for nothing. That isn't to say they shouldn't try for change while they are still sentient, if they have the energy and wish to, but for those who are tired, it should be their prerogative to hang up sentience and call it quits.
When pro-lifers state that CTB is NEVER an option, it is not only disingenuous, offensive, and just ignorant to us, but what they find tragic, we find liberating. It is liberating because we no longer have to deal with the non-sense that we face in daily life, including wageslaving and all the bullshit responsibilities, disappointment, appeasement of others (including staying alive against our will just so they don't have to feel bad), and more. A famous philosopher, Frederich Nietzsche once said "The thought of CTB [suicide] is a great consolation: by means of it one gets through many a dark night.", and that shows that while it may be tragic to pro-lifers and many others, it is liberation from suffering. They (the pro-lifers) hate the fact that one essentially activates a cheat code in sentience, and allows oneself to just ignore everything, therefore they try to not only discourage and dissuade such acts through shame, guilt, and various things, but even going as far as to incarceration, discrediting the individual (of not of sound mind), and even going as far stigmatizing the whole act, which ironically causes more people to hide their true intentions and actually go through with it, leaving a unwanted "surprise" for the survivors!
Personal anecdote:
Sometimes I wondered about being the insert number club (27, 29, 31, 32, etc.) when it comes CTB, not just out of superstition or anything, but knowing that the sooner I exit this suffering world of sentience (whenever my copes are no longer sufficient, the right catalysts hit the right spots, and the right time and circumstance), the less I have to deal with all the bullshit. For example, in my mid 30's now (at age 35) if I were to CTB, then I'd avoid at least more than three decades of wageslaving, disappointment, infirmity and disease, avoiding a situation where only anguish lingers as I age. I am also shielded from disappointment, shortcomings of life, as well as avoiding many worse events down the road, including infirmity and disease. I also avoid years of gambling with sentience, where only one bad accident, bad event (natural disaster, or man-made disaster) away from immense suffering and disability. There are many more, but for a thread, this would be just a few major examples of why CTB is not always a tragic act or outcome, but rather an act of ultimate liberation from suffering.
While there are many more other benefits of CTB'ing sooner than later (on one's own terms), I've listed a few major ones for example, and many of the cons are only cons when viewed by the mainstream and anti-choice perspective, which is what most people see rather than the people who have made peace with death and see the world for what it truly is. Of course, this isn't saying that people should CTB, it's ultimately one's own choice to CTB, to continue coping, or to recover. I am merely just venting, but also expressing my two cents on the very topic of the act of CTB itself.
There are many other benefits of CTB'ing on one's own terms that isn't necessarily tragic and from the pro-choice perspective it outweighs the harms incurred by said person. Almost every human being sentient will at some point, have or had worked (or even continued to work) as long as they live, especially the vast majority of the human species. By CTB'ing, especially sooner than later, they end up avoiding wageslaving for many decades (possibly longer for those who were born in the late 80's or even early 90's. As someone such as myself, who ended up wage slaving in the past 5-6 years, with at least over 3 years of continuous employment, I cannot foresee myself wageslaving to support a society that goes against my values and what not. My copes do last me for a while, but not indefinite. So assuming that one leaves sooner than natural age, which is the life expectancy being around 80 years of age, chronologically speaking, notwithstanding diseases, ailments, and/or other causes (man-made disasters, natural disasters, etc.). The absence of more than the majority of one's lifespans may miss some fleeting joys, but also avoid many of the undesirable events that one encounters throughout one's own life.
Additionally, on the point of wageslaving, many pro-lifers and even the State lament it because it is decades of less taxes from the individual, potentially tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue. As for the economics and the system, possibly millions in generated income that is gone from just an individual. It makes sense WHY the State and society is so hellbent being against CTB, but in the end, if someone really despises the system, if one does CTB, they effectively stop feeding in the same abusive power structures that enslave and oppress said individual. While others opt for change, it is mostly empty talk, because it means that one just keeps pushing for change that may/not come in one's lifetime. Sure, while there are some hardy people that will constantly push for such change, it is not guaranteed and may be for nothing. That isn't to say they shouldn't try for change while they are still sentient, if they have the energy and wish to, but for those who are tired, it should be their prerogative to hang up sentience and call it quits.
When pro-lifers state that CTB is NEVER an option, it is not only disingenuous, offensive, and just ignorant to us, but what they find tragic, we find liberating. It is liberating because we no longer have to deal with the non-sense that we face in daily life, including wageslaving and all the bullshit responsibilities, disappointment, appeasement of others (including staying alive against our will just so they don't have to feel bad), and more. A famous philosopher, Frederich Nietzsche once said "The thought of CTB [suicide] is a great consolation: by means of it one gets through many a dark night.", and that shows that while it may be tragic to pro-lifers and many others, it is liberation from suffering. They (the pro-lifers) hate the fact that one essentially activates a cheat code in sentience, and allows oneself to just ignore everything, therefore they try to not only discourage and dissuade such acts through shame, guilt, and various things, but even going as far as to incarceration, discrediting the individual (of not of sound mind), and even going as far stigmatizing the whole act, which ironically causes more people to hide their true intentions and actually go through with it, leaving a unwanted "surprise" for the survivors!
Personal anecdote:
Sometimes I wondered about being the insert number club (27, 29, 31, 32, etc.) when it comes CTB, not just out of superstition or anything, but knowing that the sooner I exit this suffering world of sentience (whenever my copes are no longer sufficient, the right catalysts hit the right spots, and the right time and circumstance), the less I have to deal with all the bullshit. For example, in my mid 30's now (at age 35) if I were to CTB, then I'd avoid at least more than three decades of wageslaving, disappointment, infirmity and disease, avoiding a situation where only anguish lingers as I age. I am also shielded from disappointment, shortcomings of life, as well as avoiding many worse events down the road, including infirmity and disease. I also avoid years of gambling with sentience, where only one bad accident, bad event (natural disaster, or man-made disaster) away from immense suffering and disability. There are many more, but for a thread, this would be just a few major examples of why CTB is not always a tragic act or outcome, but rather an act of ultimate liberation from suffering.
While there are many more other benefits of CTB'ing sooner than later (on one's own terms), I've listed a few major ones for example, and many of the cons are only cons when viewed by the mainstream and anti-choice perspective, which is what most people see rather than the people who have made peace with death and see the world for what it truly is. Of course, this isn't saying that people should CTB, it's ultimately one's own choice to CTB, to continue coping, or to recover. I am merely just venting, but also expressing my two cents on the very topic of the act of CTB itself.
