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Spaghettificat

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The package arrived just a few minutes ago—only 6 days after I bought it. The company is called W... and they're based in California. Allegedly they only sell to industrial consumers but I think they overlooked my order because I bought a 50 lb 400$ bag which is the smallest quantity they sell—surely no one would need 50lbs for anything but an industrial purpose, right?

I'll be using it to ctb without antiemetics, likely in the next week although I'm not sure exactly when. I'll make an update post the day of. I'm honestly kinda excited—I've felt super awful for the past month and it's nice to finally have something to look forward to :3
 
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Realog11

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I'm also not using antiemetics
 
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You should test it before doing anything. You have to be 100% sure of what you have before using it to CTB. Maybe it's just me but I wouldn't want to fuck the opportunity up by not crossing my Ts.
 
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You should test it before doing anything. You have to be 100% sure of what you have before using it to CTB. Maybe it's just me but I wouldn't want to fuck the opportunity up by not crossing my Ts.
How do you test it
 
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How do you test it
There is a scientific way to make sure you know what you have but my method would be testing on mice or something. People would not agree with me about it and I understand why but if im ending my life then I will not tolerate failure.
 
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Spaghettificat

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How do you test it
There's a lot of discourse about testing via non-lethal ingestion and short answer is that that's a really bad idea so you either trust what you have or research how to test it safely via chemistry. I'm pretty certain of what I have but it might not be a bad idea to look into testing. If it's not too much of a hassle there's not much reason not to but I'm pretty darn certain of what I have and don't want to delay too long.
 
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Spaghettificat

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Not really. You can but mice at a pet store. They're snake food. But again I wouldnt approach it so causally.
Nah. Even if those mice are being sold as food it'd just make me feel bad to kill them. I've been vegan almost 2yrs now and I kinda wanna die vegan. I'll look into alternative testing. If I don't end up testing and something goes wrong then something goes wrong. I've also got an argon cylinder, regulator and oxygen tubing as plan B and a good spot for hanging as plan C. As far as I can tell if I fail it's just a matter of trying again once I have the freedom to do so.
 
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There is a scientific way to make sure you know what you have but my method would be testing on mice or something. People would not agree with me about it and I understand why but if im ending my life then I will not tolerate failure.
You admitting to being okay with animal abuse aside, it would be nearly impossible to accurately measure how SN would work on those mice versus a human unless you have an entire lab, a chemistry/medical degree, years of experience, etc. And even then, the validity of animal testing is debated.

The mice cannot talk to tell you if they were dying of something caused by cross contamination in the SN, and their organs are much smaller than ours, so even if the SN isn't pure, it might kill them and not you. You'd have to have access to a way to dissect and identify strain on different organs and know just how much your own body could take in comparison.

Not only would you have just as high a chance of failure, but you'd have tortured multiple animals to death out of cowardice. Sounds kinda hypocritical to say this, but... get help.
 
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Not really. You can but mice at a pet store. They're snake food. But again I wouldnt approach it so causally.

I know the mice will die anyway but don't drag an innocent third party into this, even when it's "just" a pet.
 
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You admitting to being okay with animal abuse aside, it would be nearly impossible to accurately measure how SN would work on those mice versus a human unless you have an entire lab, a chemistry/medical degree, years of experience, etc. And even then, the validity of animal testing is debated.

The mice cannot talk to tell you if they were dying of something caused by cross contamination in the SN, and their organs are much smaller than ours, so even if the SN isn't pure, it might kill them and not you. You'd have to have access to a way to dissect and identify strain on different organs and know just how much your own body could take in comparison.

Not only would you have just as high a chance of failure, but you'd have tortured multiple animals to death out of cowardice. Sounds kinda hypocritical to say this, but... get help.
As predicted. I understand. The reality is animal abuse is responsible for most of our advancement in medicine and while it's easy to sit back and judge all the while being a benefactor unwilling or otherwise, the fact of the matter is we as a species kill everything even each other. I don't want to get to deep into this but I completely agree with you that it's wrong. Only in my greatest moment of desperation would I even consider it. But to lie and say I wouldn't if it meant ending this hell... would be a cowardice too. Which is dumb because we're at our core all "cowards". Just different levels I guess. We don't want to face this world.
I know the mice will die anyway but don't drag an innocent third party into this, even when it's "just" a pet.
I agree. It's a complicated issue for me personally. At what point is life sacred? I have ended the lives of countless roaches, ants, flies, mosquitoes, mice, (traps and poisons), and they were all for selfish reasons because they're living things but these things are classified as pests and infestion bringers. I think mice are right on the line of that and I dont think i'll ever cross the line for the purpose of ctb but if I did I wouldn't be able to justify it as being any different than the other times. It all amounts to selfishness and lack of empathy. I understand.
 
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Nah. Even if those mice are being sold as food it'd just make me feel bad to kill them. I've been vegan almost 2yrs now and I kinda wanna die vegan. I'll look into alternative testing. If I don't end up testing and something goes wrong then something goes wrong. I've also got an argon cylinder, regulator and oxygen tubing as plan B and a good spot for hanging as plan C. As far as I can tell if I fail it's just a matter of trying again once I have the freedom to do so.
I don't blame you, and I wouldn't want to mess with karma, especially right before attempting to ctb.
 
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As predicted. I understand. The reality is animal abuse is responsible for most of our advancement in medicine and while it's easy to sit back and judge all the while being a benefactor unwilling or otherwise, the fact of the matter is we as a species kill everything even each other. I don't want to get to deep into this but I completely agree with you that it's wrong. Only in my greatest moment of desperation would I even consider it. But to lie and say I wouldn't if it meant ending this hell... would be a cowardice too. Which is dumb because we're at our core all "cowards". Just different levels I guess. We don't want to face this world.

I agree. It's a complicated issue for me personally. At what point is life sacred? I have ended the lives of countless roaches, ants, flies, mosquitoes, mice, (traps and poisons), and they were all for selfish reasons because they're living things but these things are classified as pests and infestion bringers. I think mice are right on the line of that and I dont think i'll ever cross the line for the purpose of ctb but if I did I wouldn't be able to justify it as being any different than the other times. It all amounts to selfishness and lack of empathy. I understand.
No life is sacred...or all life is sacred. Whatever you think, it is at least your duty to not cause suffering. If everyone followed that rule we wouldn't be suffering
 
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Nah. Even if those mice are being sold as food it'd just make me feel bad to kill them. I've been vegan almost 2yrs now and I kinda wanna die vegan. I'll look into alternative testing. If I don't end up testing and something goes wrong then something goes wrong. I've also got an argon cylinder, regulator and oxygen tubing as plan B and a good spot for hanging as plan C. As far as I can tell if I fail it's just a matter of trying again once I have the freedom to do so.
May I ask why the sn is your plan A?
 
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May I ask why the sn is your plan A?
IDK. I guess I just like the idea of downing a glass of SN and then cuddling my blahaj to literal death. I'll prolly get nauseous but that's it.
 
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The package arrived just a few minutes ago—only 6 days after I bought it. The company is called W... and they're based in California. Allegedly they only sell to industrial consumers but I think they overlooked my order because I bought a 50 lb 400$ bag which is the smallest quantity they sell—surely no one would need 50lbs for anything but an industrial purpose, right?

I'll be using it to ctb without antiemetics, likely in the next week although I'm not sure exactly when. I'll make an update post the day of. I'm honestly kinda excited—I've felt super awful for the past month and it's nice to finally have something to look forward to :3
Must have slipped through the system somehow. Luck.
Hmm I can't seem to find this W company...
There are two systems here in Australia where need to satisfy them through your business number, else not getting it.

But using it without antiemetic or some way to keep it down is probably not good strategy. Maybe read chemi's post, she test ingested and ended in hospital. If you go with it straight you'll probably just vomit it up and get sick.


There is a scientific way to make sure you know what you have but my method would be testing on mice or something. People would not agree with me about it and I understand why but if im ending my life then I will not tolerate failure.
Dude 1) don't test on poor mice, Jesus. 2)Even if successful and it is the real deal, it doesn't work the same with humans.
 
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Must have slipped through the system somehow. Luck.
Hmm I can't seem to find this W company...
There are two systems here in Australia where need to satisfy them through your business number, else not getting it.

But using it without antiemetic or some way to keep it down is probably not good strategy. Maybe read chemi's post, she test ingested and ended in hospital. If you go with it straight you'll probably just vomit it up and get sick.



Dude 1) don't test on poor mice, Jesus. 2)Even if successful and it is the real deal, it doesn't work the same with humans.
Thread 'PROOF! - VOMITING HAS *NOT* BEEN REPORTED ON THE FORUM AS A CAUSE OF SN FAILURE' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-on-the-forum-as-a-cause-of-sn-failure.47986/

As long as I fast and prepare extra glasses for if I do vomit I think it'll work. I've got a strong stomach and don't vomit easily when I'm nauseous. Is there a chance I fail because of vomiting? Sure, but all in all there's always a chance of failure and I think I like my odds without antiemetics well enough to try it.
 
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50LBs!! Thats going to leave a lot left over, maybe make sure you let the people most likly to find you what it so it can be disposed properly
NGL EMS would probably be the first to see my body. I'm not too worried about it.
 
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I agree. It's a complicated issue for me personally. At what point is life sacred? I have ended the lives of countless roaches, ants, flies, mosquitoes, mice, (traps and poisons), and they were all for selfish reasons because they're living things but these things are classified as pests and infestion bringers. I think mice are right on the line of that and I dont think i'll ever cross the line for the purpose of ctb but if I did I wouldn't be able to justify it as being any different than the other times. It all amounts to selfishness and lack of empathy. I understand.
Hey man, just because you or whatever scientists before us don't view your life as sacred doesn't mean that it applies to all living things. also, simply killing a rodent or a pest because it's impeding you is way different then literally going out of your way to torture it. I kill spiders if they're in my room, but I'm not gonna go outside and kill random spiders because I'm feeling a certain way.

Besides, what would experimenting SN on a mouse even do? There are other alternatives to testing SN that don't involve pointless torture and mice are not the same as humans. Maybe you could give a mouse a dosage that would kill them but that doesn't mean it would do the same for you. Mice are way smaller and thus have smaller organs. You would not be proving anything by experimenting on a mouse as opposed to other methods. Not to mention you brought up how scientists tested on mice, but what big discovery would one make by testing SN on mice? Those scientists, while I obviously don't condone it, did it to benefit humans while you're doing it because you want to kill your self.

Sorry if I sound really blunt, but the idea of using mice just really angered me.
 
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Hey man, just because you or whatever scientists before us don't view your life as sacred doesn't mean that it applies to all living things. also, simply killing a rodent or a pest because it's impending you is way different then literally going out of your way to torture it. I kill spiders if they're in my room, but I'm not gonna go outside and kill random spiders because I'm feeling a certain way.

Besides, what would experimenting SN on a mouse even do? There are other alternatives to testing SN that don't involve pointless torture and mice are not the same as humans. Maybe you could give a mouse a dosage that would kill them but that doesn't mean it would do the same for you. Mice are way smaller and thus have smaller organs. You would not be proving anything by experimenting on a mouse as opposed to other methods. Not to mention you brought up how scientists tested on mice, but what big discovery would one make by testing SN on mice? Those scientists, while I obviously don't condone it, did it to benefit humans while you're doing it because you want to kill your self.
Your bluntness doesn't bother me in the least so don't worry.
It was simply a poorly thought out suggestion on my part.
I don't condone the hurting of animals so it was a contradiction of character to even suggest it. However, If I were to play devils advocate, I could justify the action with callous and logical ease. I'm not that person so we can skip that and conclude your reply with my agreement on your point.
 
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The package arrived just a few minutes ago—only 6 days after I bought it. The company is called W... and they're based in California. Allegedly they only sell to industrial consumers but I think they overlooked my order because I bought a 50 lb 400$ bag which is the smallest quantity they sell—surely no one would need 50lbs for anything but an industrial purpose, right?

I'll be using it to ctb without antiemetics, likely in the next week although I'm not sure exactly when. I'll make an update post the day of. I'm honestly kinda excited—I've felt super awful for the past month and it's nice to finally have something to look forward to :3
Give the source??
 
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Wow 50lbs!


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Bad joke, but 50 lbs... if we could get everyone who needs it here their 50gr or so could we then say we're renting a charter bus?
 
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DeathSweetDeath

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So if I ordered a "normal" amount from a chemical company in the US without any problems, it's probably not genuine, or the right kind? If anyone knows, lmk. I'm just wondering since everyone says it's so hard to get.
 
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So if I ordered a "normal" amount from a chemical company in the US without any problems, it's probably not genuine, or the right kind? If anyone knows, lmk. I'm just wondering since everyone says it's so hard to get.
There was a legitimate chemical company in Sussex, England who done something similar to this. They sold bulk amounts of SN to individuals unknowing of their intention, and after a few linked deaths and only a couple enquiries, handed their entire customer list to the police force. I think over 200 people received welfare checks with the SN being forcibly taken for a large fraction of that. I guess the greatest risk of ordering from these companies is that your information will be handed over to authorities. I'd begin thinking of an excuse, or hiding place and just denying involvement.
 
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