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So I've managed to get a good climbing rope which would be suitable for partial hanging.

My only question is that how should I practice partial hanging or if I should practice it at all?

I know I should put some towels or some padding to the front of my neck to make CTB more comfortable but I'm not sure if there are other things I should know or look out for.

I've thought about making the slipknot, putting my head through it and using my own hand as an anchor, meaning I would toss the rope around something (branch, the pipe in my wardrobe etc.) and try and get myself to pass out from that, my hand letting go when I pass out so it's not full commitment yet. Or is this a bad idea? I don't want to end up being paralyzed or something from practicing but at the same time I don't want to fully commit to CTB via this method if I can't do it fully right the first time.
 
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I practise with a solid hook in a wooden ceiling and can hold my weight

I set up the rope exactly as I would for a full attempt. Instead of anchoring my rope to a solid object, I hold it in my free hand. I don't wrap it, but hold it with a single grip

I go down on my knees and have my body fully stretched up

I then sit on my heels, and I usually pass out or come very close to it.

It allows me to know, I can really do it, if I tie that anchor
 
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I practiced today but I don't think it went as well as I hoped.

The noose was very tight around my neck and I could feel my body starting to tingle in a weird way and the blood collecting in my head.
But I wasn't able to get myself to pass out or become near it.

Am I supposed to be able to breathe during this? The first 2 times I tried today I didn't have any padding on my throat as it was just cutting my windpipe completely.
The third time was the best try but still nowhere near what I wanted, after adding a small towel as padding I was able to pull the noose very tight around my neck and I was still able to somewhat breathe during this with my body starting to tingle a little bit etc. I held this for as long as my hands had energy to do so but I wasn't able to pass out like I wanted to.
 
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After reading a bit about the dangers of just practicing partial hanging I might try and switch my CTB method.
This really sucks as I've already spent 100€ on my rope and now have no use for it. Doesn't matter as I'm on my way out anyways but I'm still dissapointed in myself that I can't make this work.

I'm just afraid of practicing and getting some kind of brain damage for no good reason. Of course you could say that it wouldn't matter as I'm trying to CTB anyway but I want my CTB to be a one and done deal. Partial hanging is also a very painful method and I'd rather have something quick or painless.

Honestly I might just jump off a big building. Something about the SN method scares me that I would suddenly start to panic and change my mind about CTB due to SI.
I wish I had a gun, that would be the ideal situation.
 
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The problem with partial is it's rarely enough pressure to occlude the carotids. Instead, you are occluding the jugular veins, which are just under your skin. Jugulars are responsible for draining blood from the brain. So with most partial attempts you brain is being filled with blood via the carotids, and it has no way to drain. This is why people often claim to feel like their head is going to explode - it can also lead to busted capillaries all over your face 0 ie., little red spots, as well as a possible ligature ring around your neck where the rope was.

I wanted to do partial, as it kind of let's you dip your toes in the water, however this works against you. If you read the hanging megathread, most of the people who were successful in losing coonsciousness, or coming close to it, all said it only worked when they applied most of their weight very quickly - like just relaxing your body and letting it's own weight to pull the noose tight very quickly.

It's kind of a double edged sword. If you want to quickly lose consciousness, you almost have to go full suspension, or the partial position where you are sitting down in the air and your legs are stretched out in front of you - I think that position applies 80-90% of your body weight. However, to make full suspension viable - meaning you are blocking the carotids and lose consciousness fairly quickly, you really have to commit and just drop all of your weight quickly.

Almost everything I've read about full suspension indicates that most people lose consciousness almost immediately, however, there are a minority of cases where that doesn't happen, and you simply asphyxiate yourself - which would be horribly panic inducing.

I still have full suspension as my backup plan, if my primary method doesn't work. However, I'm looking for alternatives to hanging because my brain will not rest in thinking I might be one of the unlucky few who doesn't lose consciousness rapidly, and that scares me. I'm toying with the idea of getting something that makes me pass out with a large garbage bag over my head that allows me to breathe normally for several minutes, and then hopefully I suffocate while out of it. What would be ideal would be a general anesthetic like propofol, but that's obviously difficult to get your hands on. I then entertained using nitrous in the same exact way that use exit bags, only in the case of inert gasses you are expecting the inert gas to give you that ctb, in my case, nitrous is not dangerous, and I would simply breathe nitrous continuously using a pressure regulator and a tube that would feed a mask that I'm breathing only nitrous. People have CTB this way - but I would not need to pretend that the nitrous would give me ctb, only that breathing it directly could cause quick loss of consciousness, or allow me to push through the hypercapnia. So ultimately the cause of death would be of asphyxiation. I had also thought of getting blackout drunk beforehand, then passing out in a tiny space in my closet that has been closed off with plastic sheeting (like a big cocoon, that would allow normal breathing for at least an hour or two - the effect then would be oxygen deprivation and asphyxia.

These are not my primary methods though, just theoretical backups.
 
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I know I should put some towels or some padding to the front of my neck to make CTB more comfortable but I'm not sure if there are other things I should know or look out for.

You know you should? How do you know? Maybe you shouldn't. Using padding makes the setup more comfortable but at the same time less effective. If you increase the contact area, that reduces pressure. In fact, this is the exact reason padding makes it more comfortable – because there's less pressure. You can't have your cake and eat it too. For the setup to be effective, you have to be able to tolerate some level of discomfort/pain. Some padding might be okay to help with comfort, but if it's too much, that's not going to help.

I've thought about making the slipknot, putting my head through it and using my own hand as an anchor, meaning I would toss the rope around something (branch, the pipe in my wardrobe etc.) and try and get myself to pass out from that, my hand letting go when I pass out so it's not full commitment yet. Or is this a bad idea?

Practicing is a very good idea, and it's a good way to gain confidence in the method.

The knot is called a Noose Knot, and not a Slip Knot, by the way. If it's an actual attempt and you're not just testing, add a stopper knot too at the free end of the Noose Knot, as close to the Noose Knot as possible (this latter part is important). A Noose Knot + stopper knot combo is also called an Arbor Knot.

The noose was very tight around my neck and I could feel my body starting to tingle in a weird way and the blood collecting in my head.
But I wasn't able to get myself to pass out or become near it.

Am I supposed to be able to breathe during this? The first 2 times I tried today I didn't have any padding on my throat as it was just cutting my windpipe completely.

First, if it's cutting your windpipe, you're positioning the rope too low. The windpipe starts at the level of the Adam's apple and goes down toward the lungs. Try positioning the rope above your Adam's apple, at the top of the neck, just below your jawline.

The main problem is that you're not applying enough pressure. You have to hold the rope steady and lower yourself with as much force as you possibly can, without holding back, disregarding the pain. If you're unable to do this, it won't work. If you do it right, you'll start to black out very quickly, within seconds. You'll have no doubts about it. It's a very distinct feeling. If it doesn't work within 5 to 10 seconds, there is no point in trying any longer.

No, you're not supposed to be able to breathe. However, it's not something you need to even think about, because everyone can hold their breath for 5 to 10 seconds, and that's all the time you need. It doesn't make sense to try any longer.

After reading a bit about the dangers of just practicing partial hanging I might try and switch my CTB method.
I'm just afraid of practicing and getting some kind of brain damage for no good reason.

So, what dangers did you read about, and where did you read them? Sources? Please tell me it wasn't ChatGPT that told you!

The only danger I know is that you can pass out and fall. That is a real danger, so make sure you don't have sharp objects around when you practice.

It takes at least a few minutes of sustained, completely cut-off blood flow to suffer any kind of brain damage. That can't happen when you practice by holding the other end of the rope in your hand and releasing the pressure as soon as you start to pass out.

Have you heard of autoerotic asphyxia? Or professional fighters choking each other out? People make themselves pass out all the time. It might have an effect on health if you do it every single day for years. However, I don't believe there is a real danger of brain damage just from practicing passing out, even if you do it a few dozen times.
 
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So, what dangers did you read about, and where did you read them? Sources? Please tell me it wasn't ChatGPT that told you!

:meh:


Although the chances are indeed very low, it's still non-zero, which is something I'd rather avoid. :)
 

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