How the fuck do yall get jobs?

[Not_A_Seagull]

Title says all, I cant find a job for jackshit nowadays because it's all either fake job postings or companies have the most highest expectations.

For those that do have jobs (in north america), how did yall get a job in the first place.

 

[k1m]

Lots of people get jobs through personal connections. LOTS. So many bullshit postings, so much competition. It's so hard.

It helps to do a polite follow up. A lot of places just forget, or ignore you, or call you back months later to say no.

 

[amerie]

Know people and have good interviewing skills + fluff up your resume

 

[Dejected 55]

If you don't know people, don't have inside connections... you have to be the absolute provable best in your field to even get a sniff of an interest.

 

[brighteyesfan144]

You don't need connections and you don't need to be the best in your field. You just have to say what people want to hear.

First thing I would ask is, what field do you want to work in? This is a great thing to talk to ChatGPT about so you can find out the steps to take to get the job you want. Read the requirements/experience necessary and get that experience at the ground level by taking entry-level jobs. I'd recommend not being picky.

Having training or a degree helps a lot, but the most important thing has always been making a real connection with your interviewer. Looking good is important. Big points if you can make the interviewer laugh about something relatable. Make them think you are a reliable, dependable person. Be persistent with following up about your interview. Some fields are really easy to get into if you start in a labourer position.

Another solution is starting your own business. Take any job and try to save even 500$ for advertising and tools. I printed out 1000 door-knockers for landscaping and put them in doors around the neighborhood and got calls. You'd be surprised how many calls you will get. Do that for maybe a year and then you can talk about how you ran your own company and how you dealt with clients. People embelish their resumes and make up stories in interviews all the time to make themselves look good. Just say what you need to say to get your foot in the door and pretty soon one will open for you. Good luck.

 

[jimmyinnout]

Luck

Honestly I think there is a huge crisis coming regarding unemployment (especially in certain countries/regions, for a variety of reasons) and this is one of my largest reasons for CBT based urges.

However, I have had a MINUTE amount of luck through applying to jobs through recruitment agencies (some are free/affiliated with the government). The advantage in these specifically lies in the way that they act like "connections" would for people who have friends and family (your resume may be prioritized compared to those sent through indeed or other means), and also, if you are hired, the agency may subsidize your wages for a period of time, which once again, makes you more desirable to these companies (since they can save money on hiring you). I would specifically ask about the possibility of subsidized wages when speaking to an agent for the first time.

Note, your job agent will not help you at all, mine is disgustingly unintelligent, and I am not even saying that out of anger, it is the objective truth. It is actually hilarious how stupid he is. They also offer alot of in my opinion worthless "workshops" to help you gain "skills" that make you more hireable, and your agent may also send you job fairs or similar hiring events (ymmv depending on how competent your job agent is).

 

[KlixxFoxe]

Lots of people get jobs through personal connections. LOTS.

Know people

If you don't know people, don't have inside connections...

This. I see this in my professional field (Computer Science). All of my current colleagues are friends/couples/relatives, etc. Therefore, if you don't have communication skills, it's almost impossible to find a good tech job. I found my current job at the university through an ad because I'm autistic and don't have many friends, so I think this is an exception. But I wouldn't say that having a job is cool. I would rather be a NEET than an office worker.

 

[Grav]

What kind of job/field are you looking for? Corporate are very tied to decreasing head count. Trades usually require people but are still tied to the market. Are you trained in the field you want? Have you had any past job experience?

 

[amerie]

This. I see this in my professional field (Computer Science). All of my current colleagues are friends/couples/relatives, etc. Therefore, if you don't have communication skills, it's almost impossible to find a good tech job. I found my current job at the university through an ad because I'm autistic and don't have many friends, so I think this is an exception. But I wouldn't say that having a job is cool. I would rather be a NEET than an office worker.

This is why I get annoyed when I go on Reddit (usually primarily white and privledged) autistic spaces talking about how "masking leads to burnout" and telling people to unmask and ONLY associate with people who are like you, yeah great way to get left behind in a shitty economy.

People skills are so important. Even if it's fake you need to eat, learn how to have surface level and deep connections simultaneously.

 

[Grav]

I've seen the purge of the "snarky IT guys" over the years. Now especially people have to be able to talk to someone else, and often those are overseas people.

 

[whywere]

If the company is of any size, usually an AI software program scans and does the 1st wave of yes and no aspect. Yes, going forward and no, goodbye.

The one aspect that companies now days are biting themselves in the ass about is the general term of: "ghosting". This does nothing but set the company up as a loser, because generally, in my point of view, there will be a higher attrition rate.

Look at it this way, why are some companies ditching 401k plans and going back to defined pension programs? 401K goes with an employee, but if a person wants any form of income from said company, then they have to stick around.

Now as far as getting a position goes to me it matters if the firm is small, medium or a large firm to begin with. A small firm might just have a HR person and/or a recruiter look at a resume or application. Medium to large firms generally have AI do the first weed out.

As far as having one's resume with questionable aspects on it, NO! It will either come out, if one gets a interview or even worse, if one gets hired and then the firm finds out, there is a real possibility of being released (fired). I have never seen a firm that tolerates shall we say bogus aspects, nope, never. At least I have not.

Two aspects, as far as I am concerned goes hand in hand in position hunting. 1st, what does the person have to offer. On a resume highlight achievements, be it small or not so small, AND include any type of involvement that one has with co-workers. From what I have seen over almost 50 years in the business world, harmony in the workplace is as important as knowledge.

I have always used NETWORKING to find positions and that is one of the most important aspects that a person has.

Now if one is kind of starting out or is starting out, look more at what a person might gain from the experience than just the comp plan (salary). I have seen too many younger folks who think that they should be able to have x dollars right off the bat, no "wage slave" for them. Well, sometimes to break the ice and gain much needed experience one has to be humble and show what a person can do, not just think and/or demand something, nope, never.

I grew up on a working dairy farm, 5am, 365 days a year. When I got kicked out, I worked an overnight shift as I completed my last year of high school. Then got a full-time job and worked it till I was 24 and then went to college. Graduated and went from there, but never ever any handouts of any form ever, never.

Especially with orange face in the White House here in the U.S. unemployment is going to be higher with his terrible economic policies.

If I was starting out in this environment, I would know what I really wanted down the road, however, when the rubber hits the pavement, I would do lots of different positions while I kept my eye on my end goal. Just because one takes a position that does not A-line with future desires does not mean that the future is any less bright. Sometimes, one has to take a sidestep, NOT back step to move forward.

Walter

 

[Dejected 55]

That's just it, though... In the last job I had... people weren't really that social at work. Maybe they are more social outside of work, I wouldn't know... but at work they were only social if it was to make a joke at someone else's expense or talk about someone else behind their back. It wasn't collaborative socializing or friendly socializing.

Social people today aren't the same as even 10-20 years ago.

 

[Ididthis]

I'm not sure if this will be particularly helpful in your situation, but temp agencies have been a god send for me. I'm a felon without a high school degree or a g.e.d. and i've made up to 25 bucks an hour from a temp-to-hire position. Most of it is going to be industrial stuff, but i've never had to work extremely hard, though i understand that can be relative. Most of the time they'll start you off doing day labor, things like helping out contractors, cleaning up job sites, etc. Those generally pay same day. But keep requesting temp to hire stuff, usually its a 90 day or so probationary period and you can be hired on fully and get some kind of benefits. The bar is extremely low for who most of them will take. Do a small amount of research online about your local options and at bare minimum, day labor can put cash in your pocket. If this isn't helpful i apologize but i know it has been for some people in the past. It's brutal out there, i wish you all the luck!

 

[London2005]

it depends on what you are looking for but local stores are good options and handing in your resume

 

[Lions303]

What are you looking to do for a career the job you want? If I started all over again and needed to get one, Id be calling companies and speaking with people that do what I want to do and ask to shadow for a day. Start so see 1) If i do like it and 2) build connections in the industry. Then if they are looking for jobs they would say to you (Id never ask on the shadowing tho, let them bring it up)

 

[Sheepskin]

Title says all, I cant find a job for jackshit nowadays because it's all either fake job postings or companies have the most highest expectations.

For those that do have jobs (in north america), how did yall get a job in the first place.

Personally I have even more trouble with keeping a job. Just coming in every day is so fucking draining. The last time I tried to stay employed nearly immediately while at work all I could think about was sh. After about three weeks I was very close to at least attempting ctb.

I don't know how to help with finding a job, but I do hope you don't have such a hard time keeping it and working

 

[Spicy Tteokbokki]

What are you looking to do for a career the job you want? If I started all over again and needed to get one, Id be calling companies and speaking with people that do what I want to do and ask to shadow for a day. Start so see 1) If i do like it and 2) build connections in the industry. Then if they are looking for jobs they would say to you (Id never ask on the shadowing tho, let them bring it up)

That's a really good idea. I might actually try this out. Chances are slim they'd let me, but who knows, it's worth a try.
Question is just how to dress up now. A kawaii girl or as a student with a tie and skirt and stuff, or go full on butch. I don't have a suit to go full on corpo, sadly.
I know the kawaii look gets you a ton of leeway and access to a lot of places, but I have legit 0 experience in this regard when it comes to stuff like this. Only exceptions are trains, ships, and airplanes, in which case being kawaii did give me access to sit in the front seat and get told and show about how they do things and what their work involves. Super cool experience btw.

 

[ThatStateOfMind]

Title says all, I cant find a job for jackshit nowadays because it's all either fake job postings or companies have the most highest expectations.

For those that do have jobs (in north america), how did yall get a job in the first place.

Applying over and over and over. Between applying for internships and even just part time jobs, I easily sent out 80-100 applications between December and May. I eventually landed something at the end of May. It's fast food, and the job isn't really enjoyable, but it pays my bills.

Question is just how to dress up now. A kawaii girl or as a student with a tie and skirt and stuff, or go full on butch.

I'm not the original commenter but I'd say it heavily depends on the company. I know that's not exactly helpful but maybe you can research the companies dress code and dress accordingly.

Therefore, if you don't have communication skills, it's almost impossible to find a good tech job

This is why I think it's important for colleges to push for at least one soft skill class in STEM fields. I'm on Comp Sci as well, and my professionalism class is forcing me to work on soft skills and communication.

I doubt I'll work in this field after graduation (starting to lose interest in programming rapidly for whatever reason), but at least this, along with other skills, are things I can take with me to whatever field regardless.

 

[Grav]

If you can land even the lowest of jobs it's good if it can get you money. I've had to train people in all my jobs and have family who work in HR and a track record of employment helps. Besides showing you can work it gives you recommendations and the ability to network with people at work and who come to the business. The coworkers may not have much to offer but you never know who knows who, if that makes sense. Those lower level jobs will also give you experience in people skills and how to behave at work. Baby steps. You know what you definitely can't handle (sales, tech, manual labor, etc) so focus on the other jobs and don't be afraid to take on more tasks at work, it puts you in good graces and can open other doors. I'm of an older generation but everyone I know started in the lowest of jobs and ended up in careers if not long term employment.

temp agencies have been a god send for me.

These are good places to start. Companies that use temp work can also hire those workers, my company did this a lot. It's a good way to see how someone works out and if not, they just get a new person. Depending on the temp company you may get more opportunities to check out companies since you aren't tied directly to them through employment.

 

[Lions303]

That's a really good idea. I might actually try this out. Chances are slim they'd let me, but who knows, it's worth a try.
Question is just how to dress up now. A kawaii girl or as a student with a tie and skirt and stuff, or go full on butch. I don't have a suit to go full on corpo, sadly.
I know the kawaii look gets you a ton of leeway and access to a lot of places, but I have legit 0 experience in this regard when it comes to stuff like this. Only exceptions are trains, ships, and airplanes, in which case being kawaii did give me access to sit in the front seat and get told and show about how they do things and what their work involves. Super cool experience btw.

Yeah for sure try it, I mean you will get a lot of nos to start that's for sure. I think playing if off in the way of 'Im really interested in doing X and I love Y thing about your company. Id love to shadow Z person in the role for a day.'. Dress wise smart casual is a good idea, depending on the industry ofc, here in the UK most companies have gone smart casual, the only really need for smart is law and funnily enough education. Presentable is good enough so I wouldn't overthink it.

 

[Lookingtoflyfree]

5 years ago I was able to get a job through a former classmate, who referred me to the job and I interviewed. That world of being able to make connections is gone. The job ads reveal how toxic most companies are. I'm burning through saving and anticipate homelessness in my future. Considering relocating to a warmer area so that if that happens, at least I won't get die in the cold.

Capitalism will destroy it all, and I won't be around to see that. I wish us all luck.