How reliable is full suspension hanging?

[Eren]

I'm thinking of full suspension hanging, how reliable is this method? Is there a great risk of brain damage if it is done wrong?

I had heard that it is painful, I am an overweight man, how does this influence?

Thank you.

 

[15dec]

As long as it's done correctly and you're not discovered, it's very reliable. But there is a lot to consider.

You need to make sure you're not going to be found for about thirty minutes after you begin, as well we include prep time. You need to make sure the rope is strong enough to hold your weight, and when you're unconscious your body will thrash around which can weaken it and cause it to break. You also need to make sure it's tied securely to something strong that won't break. In addition, the noose needs to be one that tightens enough to compress your arteries/airway. Compressing the arteries is less painful than the airway. I believe full suspension is more painful than partial as your weight is being held up entirely by your head and jaw, however it does prevent you from being able to stand before you're unconscious due to your survival instincts kicking in.

If you fail, for example if the rope breaks or you're discovered, brain damage is likely. Depending on how long blood or oxygen supply to the brain was cut off, it could be minor and somewhat reversible or leave you in a vegative state. This is why it's important to test the rope and ensure you won't be found for some time.

As for your weight, I think the biggest thing is to make sure the rope will hold. I'm not sure if it impacts other parts of full suspension.

There is some very useful information here: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/rope.8874/#post-152283 on types of rope and knots.

Best wishes, sending hugs

 

[gingerplum]

I'm thinking of full suspension hanging, how reliable is this method? Is there a great risk of brain damage if it is done wrong?

I had heard that it is painful, I am an overweight man, how does this influence?

Thank you.

Well, when it's done right, your neck will snap on impact and you won't feel anything. There's detailed threads here that discuss calculating drop height based on your weight, and obviously you'll need something secure to support you.

 

[Eren]

As long as it's done correctly and you're not discovered, it's very reliable. But there is a lot to consider.

You need to make sure you're not going to be found for about thirty minutes after you begin, as well we include prep time. You need to make sure the rope is strong enough to hold your weight, and when you're unconscious your body will thrash around which can weaken it and cause it to break. You also need to make sure it's tied securely to something strong that won't break. In addition, the noose needs to be one that tightens enough to compress your arteries/airway. Compressing the arteries is less painful than the airway. I believe full suspension is more painful than partial as your weight is being held up entirely by your head and jaw, however it does prevent you from being able to stand before you're unconscious due to your survival instincts kicking in.

If you fail, for example if the rope breaks or you're discovered, brain damage is likely. Depending on how long blood or oxygen supply to the brain was cut off, it could be minor and somewhat reversible or leave you in a vegative state. This is why it's important to test the rope and ensure you won't be found for some time.

As for your weight, I think the biggest thing is to make sure the rope will hold. I'm not sure if it impacts other parts of full suspension.

There is some very useful information here: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/rope.8874/#post-152283 on types of rope and knots.

Best wishes, sending hugs

Thanks you very much.

 

[BjartNO]

Well, when it's done right

Well, there are two different approaches to full suspension.
Long drop and short drop.
You are talking about the long drop version.
They're really completely different methods, I wouldn't say one is right and one isn't

 

[Jiva]

Hi. I think the complete hanging is maximally lethal and it was tested many times. But if you make it wrong, it will be longer and painful. Nothing more. You must use a good loop and have enough privacy on a safe place.

 

[Angst Filled Fuck Up]

It's reliable if effectively executed, but in addition to the above considerations, I would add that it can be difficult to follow through on when push comes to shove. In particular, the moment when you're forced to let go and keep your hands away from your neck. It's very tempting to grab back on to the rope/noose if you start panicking, because the sensation of choking/suffocating by way of your own body weight can be quite strong and scary. This may be exacerbated if you're heavy. Just some things to think about.

 

[gingerplum]

Well, there are two different approaches to full suspension.
Long drop and short drop.
You are talking about the long drop version.
They're really completely different methods, I wouldn't say one is right and one isn't

Sorry, I interpreted "full suspension" and "long drop" as the same thing, and they're not.

 

[Comatose11]

As long as you're not discovered, have a rope that can support your weight and more, have an anchor you can tie it to that can support your weight and more, no way to back out, and the knots are tied in such a way they won't become undone, you'll succeed.

 

[Eren]

What kind of rope and length do you recommend for full suspension?

I am also obese, should I have any consideration for full suspension being obese?

I know I am very undecided, yesterday I spoke about SN and now hanging, I feel useless even for this but it is not easy to choose a method, suicide is not easy unless you have N and the last thing I want is to fail and be with brain damage.

 

[Its almost time]

I tried partial recently only failed as the belt fell from the top of the door, if it hadn't I'd be dead now. 5 seconds of uncontrollable choking until I passed out then as the belt slipped away. Woke up consulusing my arms were shaking like mad. A belt is a perfect method imo, loop it round your neck then jam the other end at top of door or better yet nail/screw it down

 

[ron_g]

A belt is a perfect method imo

What's the advantage of a belt over a rope?

 

[Eren]

I do not trust much in partial suspension, I prefer full suspension for being more reliable.

 

[sif]

I actually almost knew a person who hanged himself... he had reached out to me to try a few months before and I didn't really talk to him much. Then he was found dead.. I think it's reliable but also a scary method. If you do some searching I think there are accurate numbers on the length of rope needed and things for different types of hanging, it's pretty well documented.

 

[Eren]

I basically prefer full suspension because it is a safe method.

As long as the rope or the branch does not break, is it 100% sure that I will die? Assuming clearly that nobody finds me.

 

[therhydler]

I basically prefer full suspension because it is a safe method.

As long as the rope or the branch does not break, is it 100% sure that I will die? Assuming clearly that nobody finds me.

Yes - if nothing snaps or breaks and you are not found you will be dead

 

[martin8383784]

Hi. I think the complete hanging is maximally lethal and it was tested many times. But if you make it wrong, it will be longer and painful. Nothing more. You must use a good loop and have enough privacy on a safe place.

assuming full suspension and 10mm semi static rope for climbing what is a good knot to use for anchor and the hanging itself. I see recommendations for slip knot, is it reliable? I saw that tying another stopper knot at the free end of the rope is good to prevent the knot untie once you put your weight in

 

[Johanna94]

assuming full suspension and 10mm semi static rope for climbing what is a good knot to use for anchor and the hanging itself. I see recommendations for slip knot, is it reliable? I saw that tying another stopper knot at the free end of the rope is good to prevent the knot untie once you put your weight in

I'm also going for full suspension with a static climbing rope (10 mm).

 

[Starrywaters]

Well it's the most common method of ctb in the UK and accounts for a lot of the percentage of suicide related deaths - probably pretty reliable if carried out correctly taking into account the potential issues outlined by others already
Well it's the most common method of ctb in the UK and accounts for a lot of the percentage of suicide related deaths - probably pretty reliable if carried out correctly taking into account the potential issues outlined by others already

 

[justwantdeath]

Very reliable. If you long drop your neck will break and you will pass out instantly and die soon after.

If you short drop it is very likely you'll pass out instantly anyways as the full weight of your body compressing your neck is enough to close off your corotid and jugular.

 

[martin8383784]

As long as it's done correctly and you're not discovered, it's very reliable. But there is a lot to consider.

You need to make sure you're not going to be found for about thirty minutes after you begin, as well we include prep time. You need to make sure the rope is strong enough to hold your weight, and when you're unconscious your body will thrash around which can weaken it and cause it to break. You also need to make sure it's tied securely to something strong that won't break. In addition, the noose needs to be one that tightens enough to compress your arteries/airway. Compressing the arteries is less painful than the airway. I believe full suspension is more painful than partial as your weight is being held up entirely by your head and jaw, however it does prevent you from being able to stand before you're unconscious due to your survival instincts kicking in.

If you fail, for example if the rope breaks or you're discovered, brain damage is likely. Depending on how long blood or oxygen supply to the brain was cut off, it could be minor and somewhat reversible or leave you in a vegative state. This is why it's important to test the rope and ensure you won't be found for some time.

As for your weight, I think the biggest thing is to make sure the rope will hold. I'm not sure if it impacts other parts of full suspension.

There is some very useful information here: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/rope.8874/#post-152283 on types of rope and knots.

Best wishes, sending hugs

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