God is fucking with me

[golgappa]

Wtf is happening I am stuck in a loop of I wanna recover than just in 6 months ending up in the same place like wft

 

[whywere]

I hear and understand you.

I too have had ups and downs, but for me, maybe I am just so darn stubborn, I will not let a down time negate all the good ones.

I hope and pray that you have more great ones, as we are family here and I want the best for you always.

Hugs and sunshine to you.

Walter

 

[Ch4in3dcr0w]

It takes a lot of time and u will never heal fully there are ups and downs (even if the ups feel like small bumps in a downwards spiral). Give yourself all the time in the world u need to heal :)

 

[InTheStars]

It's not God, the devil is messing with our minds

 

[Worndown]

It is possible you find youself in the same place for reasons other than divine intervention.
When you are in a better place, what is different from today?
Can you identify specific reasons that would cause good or bad times?
They might be subtle, but there should be things you can see.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

It's not God, the devil is messing with our minds

Different name, same thing.

 

[golgappa]

It is possible you find youself in the same place for reasons other than divine intervention.
When you are in a better place, what is different from today?
Can you identify specific reasons that would cause good or bad times?
They might be subtle, but there should be things you can see.

Good time is basically just stability every 6 months I am finding unstablity in life either it's job or relationship it's most job I am in creative and it frustrats me but I am dumb I can't switch to something else I have no motivation to do it anyway let alone live

 

[InTheStars]

Different name, same thing.

It's not. Would it be the same if someone kisses you or slap you across your face? Good and bad are two different things. I'm so sorry you don't see or feel the difference.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

It's not. Would it be the same if someone kisses you or slap you across your face? Good and bad are two different things. I'm so sorry you don't see or feel the difference.

What if I like to be slapped and hate to be kissed? Which is good or bad in this case? Besides, any real god would be able to create their own meaning of "good" and "bad", and then force it into its own creation.

Oh and also god created the devil if we're talking abrahamic god. So yeah god's responsible for both

 

[InTheStars]

What if I like to be slapped and hate to be kissed? Which is good or bad in this case? Besides, any real god would be able to create their own meaning of "good" and "bad", and then force it into its own creation.

Oh and also god created the devil if we're talking abrahamic god. So yeah god's responsible for both

"If I like to be..." it's a choice, right? So you have a choice to choose which option you like. God is being that gave all his creations a choice. He didn't create anyone evil, it's called free will. If we are not created with it, we would be just robots.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

"If I like to be..." it's a choice, right? So you have a choice to choose which option you like. God is being that gave all his creations a choice. He didn't create anyone evil, it's called free will. If we are not created with it, we would be just robots.

Yet he let evil exist. a omnibenevolent god would never do that, nor would they let their creation feel bad for existing, unless the god is blaming the victim, and in that case it doesn't seem so omnibenevolent. If you need to make excuses for a deity's actions, they are not a real deity.

In any case, it's irrelevant. Any gods we can define in human words are nothing but our own creations. A being capable of creating an entire reality would never be understood or defined by their infinitely less complex creations. Do you think the tools we create understand us?

 

[InTheStars]

Yet he let evil exist. a omnibenevolent god would never do that, nor would they let their creation feel bad for existing, unless the god is blaming the victim, and in that case it doesn't seem so omnibenevolent. If you need to make excuses for a deity's actions, they are not a real deity.

In any case, it's irrelevant. Any gods we can define in human words are nothing but our own creations. A being capable of creating an entire reality would never be understood or defined by their infinitely less complex creations. Do you think the tools we create understand us?

Look, I come from a country where Mary' apparitions are a normal thing. We have so many miracles happened, things you have to see wiht you own eyes. That philosophical approach disappears once you encounter divine. It's beyond human understanding.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Look, I come from a country where Mary' apparitions are a normal thing. We have so many miracles happened, things you have to see wiht you own eyes. That philosophical approach disappears once you encounter divine. It's beyond human understanding.

If it's beyond human understanding, how do you understand what it is? I'm sure you have a lot of actual evidence of that happening. Look, it's okay to believe on what you believe, as long as it helps you and doesn't hinder others, just don't expect anyone else to see things the way you do.

 

[InTheStars]

If it's beyond human understanding, how do you understand what it is? I'm sure you have a lot of actual evidence of that happening. Look, it's okay to believe on what you believe, as long as it helps you and doesn't hinder others, just don't expect anyone else to see things the way you do.

I don't understand, I just see it's beyond understanding. I don't even try to understand. Feeling is weird and complex, yet so euphoric to witness something divine. I only hope for the humans to have their own discovery of God. When you're young you're rebellious, later as you grow older you start to see things differently.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

I just hope this faith of yours doesn't ruin the lives of others.

 

[The Actual Devil]

God is fucking with me.

Yeah, maybe.

He does that.

He did that whole Job thing totally on his own, then added me to the story centuries later. Fake news: I was busy at the time! Our bacchanalias in the 10th Circle last for eons, after all.

The only way I ever fuck with anyone is when I prank them with these naturally occurring phenomena they like to call "miracles" and then record it for Hell's version of Punk'd. And of course, Ashton Kutcher hosts it.

And hey, bud. Getting sidetracked on the road to recovery is common. You'll find your footing. Just don't be afraid to ask for help.

 

[whywere]

Yeah, maybe.

He does that.

He did that whole Job thing totally on his own, then added me to the story centuries later. Fake news: I was busy at the time! Our bacchanalias in the 10th Circle last for eons, after all.

The only way I ever fuck with anyone is when I prank them with these naturally occurring phenomena they like to call "miracles" and then record it for Hell's version of Punk'd. And of course, Ashton Kutcher hosts it.

And hey, bud. Getting sidetracked on the road to recovery is common. You'll find your footing. Just don't be afraid to ask for help.

You are such a wonderful soul!

Walter

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

You are such a wonderful soul!

Walter

I agree, satan is very kind to us here in the forum. he deserves a medal.
Oh and btw when I said god and devil are different names for the same things, I was talking about the metaphysical ones, not @The Actual Devil. That one is on a league of his own.

 

[The Actual Devil]

I agree, satan is very kind to us here in the forum. he deserves a medal.
Oh and btw when I said god and devil are different names for the same things, I was talking about the metaphysical ones, not @The Actual Devil. That one is on a league of his own.

I'll give you a Meta physical.

 

[Dante_]

When you're young you're rebellious

Hi,just a gentle reminder that the age of the OP is not made clear here plus turning it into a theological debate( god,devil) isnt helpful when its not what the thread is about so please just keep this in mind.

 

[InTheStars]

Hi,just a gentle reminder that the age of the OP is not made clear here plus turning it into a theological debate( god,devil) isnt helpful when its not what the thread is about so please just keep this in mind.

There would be no theological debate if some members would not represent themselves as devil himself. Or some members start debates against God. Of course it's going to trigger some people.

 

[PI3.14]

If God is real then he should stop fucking with you and instead go fuck himself.

 

[Dante_]

I understand that, and all members not to derail the thread, please. Also, I'm sure that The Actual Devil is just bringing some levity by occasionally referring to a character, and not seriously claiming to be that particular entity. I understand that might be triggering to some people of faith, but there are people on the forum with a range of beliefs and opinions