Firearm behind ear or slightly upward in mouth?

[lostmeaning]

Which is better? Aka more lethal and less likely to leave you in a vegetative state if you survive?

I hear in mouth slightly upward mentioned the most, but behind ear works too right..? I can't find any information about it. I would much rather do it behind the ear than in my mouth, it would be harder to go through with it for me in my mouth just feels more invasive. Behind the ear I could do when I'm ready.

 

[DeIetedUser4739]

Look up gunshot on kaotic or some other gore site and see how most people do it.

 

[lostmeaning]

Look up gunshot on kaotic or some other gore site and see how most people do it.

No offense but I don't think that's a smart way to go about deciding how to do it for a method you really need to be accurate, kind of how people end up in a vegatative state just assuming "that has to work" since they saw it online somewhere.... I have already watched dozens on a gore site and I would say majority are in the side of the head, sometimes higher than the ear. A few in the mouth but not many. Many videos a random shot in the top of the head for example, I am not following that. So looking for actual factual information not what worked for a few people. If I'm going off videos then the side of the head in the middle somewhere, which I don't think is exactly the best to hit the brain stem.

 

[Agon321]

This graphic shows which point of the brain is best to hit.
A weapon in the mouth increases the chance of success

 

[lostmeaning]

This graphic shows which point of the brain is best to hit.
A weapon in the mouth increases the chance of success
View attachment 141909

From the pic it looks like behind the ear is just as good to me both hit brain stem, why is it better success in the mouth?

 

[Agon321]

From the pic it looks like behind the ear is just as good to me both hit brain stem, why is it better success in the mouth?

I don't know, it's not my method and I've never thoroughly researched the topic ;).
I just wrote what I once read.

But it's probably just about the structure of our heads.
The bullet will have fewer "obstacles" when the gun is in the mouth than outside the head.

The caliber of the weapon also certainly matters.

 

[Forveleth]

From the pic it looks like behind the ear is just as good to me both hit brain stem, why is it better success in the mouth?

Taking an educated guess: If you put the gun behind your ear it is very easy to aim it incorrectly as your head is not flat. Try holding something perfectly straight on a curved surface, it's not easy. Also, it is difficult to judge the angle with your arm out to the side as you can't really see your hand or the gun.

Whereas if you put it in your mouth, the gun is at least somewhat in your vision and you can more accurately judge the angle. Hell, you could probably use a mirror to make sure you have it right. You can rest it on your teeth and/or use your lips to possible hold it in place a little better. It may be easier to hold your arms steady in front of you while you sit and hesitate pulling the trigger which means you are more likely to get it right if you finally work up the courage.

I'm no expert in this method but thinking it through a bit this is what I came up with.

 

[bac-9271]

Don't aim it from your mouth. You risk being disabled with a mangled face for life, along with horrifying brain damage. You won't even be able to eat.
Aim from the side. That's what works always. You won't be able to afford a face transplant unlike picrel.

 

[suffering_mo]

I've looked at these and these people pretty much all just put the gun under the chin and fired. Still scary as f$ck.

@lostmeaning what type of gun?

 

[ThisGameIsOverrated]

Seems like it's more consistent to hit the area in the image in this thread if you go behind the ear, don't quote me on it though

 

[kyhoti]

One of my plans is a .50 caliber black powder derringer behind the ear, angled upwards just in front of the mastoid process. That's where I was taught in the military, we called it "the light switch". Never had to use it offensively, but it's still the method I plan on.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Plenty of evidence out there if you search it out that shooting into the mouth at a slight upward angle has the most efficacy for this method.

 

[lostmeaning]

I don't know, it's not my method and I've never thoroughly researched the topic ;).
I just wrote what I once read.

But it's probably just about the structure of our heads.
The bullet will have fewer "obstacles" when the gun is in the mouth than outside the head.

The caliber of the weapon also certainly matters.

I have already "thoroughly researched" the topic to be able to buy a gun, buy the right caliber, and right ammo ;).

 

[LaughingGoat]

You using a shotgun, rifle, or handgun?

 

[lostmeaning]

Plenty of evidence out there if you search it out that shooting into the mouth at a slight upward angle has the most efficacy for this method.

Looking it up rn for both and not finding any evidence.

You using a shotgun, rifle, or handgun?

handgun

 

[LaughingGoat]

handgun

In that case, you could go through mouth angled upwards or like @kyhoti said is also correct. Either way will work, though personally I would go through the mouth since I find it's easier to aim straight towards the brainstem and then continue upwards through middle of brain. Using better caliber than .22, right?

 

[m1ll1pede]

Which is better? Aka more lethal and less likely to leave you in a vegetative state if you survive?

I hear in mouth slightly upward mentioned the most, but behind ear works too right..? I can't find any information about it. I would much rather do it behind the ear than in my mouth, it would be harder to go through with it for me in my mouth just feels more invasive. Behind the ear I could do when I'm ready.

Throat!! Aim for the throat..

 

[Kalista]

inside, aiming slight up against the roof of the mouth.

it's easier to aim inside than on the side of the head. try it out in front of a mirror and you'll see why. it's far more awkward trying to aim at the side.

make sure you have hollow points. good luck.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Looking it up rn for both and not finding any evidence.

Looking it up where? There's ample evidence all over the Internet in general. It's easier to go through inner bone and muscle to reach the brain stem vs. going through the thicker bone of the cranium. The PPH itself might even talk about this, but not sure. Also, placing the barrel of a firearm into the mouth allows stability of the gun while squeezing the trigger, as opposed to just holding it to the side of the head.

 

[LaughingGoat]

Throat!! Aim for the throat..

Please no, you're liable to spend an agonizingly long time choking on your blood if it even kills you.

 

[imahauntu]

SN, firearms... you're so fucking lucky. I'm in the horrifying situation i have to do it now or in some days and i knew it was likely and still took no action. Now i did and it was registering here and trying to buy SN. Realize i can't, not at least from somewhere where i reside. Elsewhere will take too long, assuming there is somewhere. Bought a rope and will be trying partial hanging. What if i can't get it to work? I can't fail, revived w/o damage still means a fate worst than death because in my situation psych ward = CAN'T
Why didn't i prepare. I was weak.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

SN, firearms... you're so fucking lucky. I'm in the horrifying situation i have to do it now or in some days and i knew it was likely and still took no action. Now i did and it was registering here and trying to buy SN. Realize i can't, not at least from somewhere where i reside. Elsewhere will take too long, assuming there is somewhere. Bought a rope and will be trying partial hanging. What if i can't get it to work? I can't fail, revived w/o damage still means a fate worst than death because in my situation psych ward = CAN'T
Why didn't i prepare. I was weak.

Same similar to me

Why haven't I prepared more?

 

[BIGMIKE]

Neither. In the back of the head, where your neck meets your head, angled upward slightly as if to exit from your forehead. You'll need to hold it upside down. There is no way to survive this it severs your spinal cord and ensures you end up dead and not with a face transplant.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

imo it's also the velocity of the bullet . speed kills.

There are some comments on this forum which show what i have already figured out. at 600 yds similar to 600 meters the bullet already lost a lot of speed but still is like a hand grenade. imagine at 3 inches to brain stem : so long brain stem so long head / brain . no more brain stem no more human forever. he says it messes up a coyote very badly at 1000 meters or yards. you know how much velocity and energy the bullet loses at 1000 meters? a lot and it still destroys a dog sized animal. so how could it not destroy a human head mine at 3 inches. ? how could i miss at 3 inches if they can hit at 1000 meters? people think you have to surgically strike the brain stem . imo velocity kills you hit the head it's gone ( Ronnie Mcnut video)

300 win with 125 gr. Ball. Tip

I am new to the forum but already I like it. I am proposing and an interesting thought. I have a 300 Win that I am trying to set up for coyote hunting. Now I know that this is not the taditional coyote set up but I don't get the traditional shots. I am looking to do some long range shooting...

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"I went to 110 V-Maxs and they are like a hand grenade, and even when you miss, you won't get bullets bouncing around - they come apart on the first dirt they hit. They will lift a large woodchuck 3 to 5 feet in the air out past 600yds, and tear up a feral dog or yote something awful at 1,000yds!

You can do very well with the 125 BT or the 110 V-Max."

this is a 10 grain small plastic bullet but it puts huge holes in clay blocks. grains are the weight and 10 grains is .65 of a grams less than a gram. a shotgun slug can be 500 grains of steel or lead. a handgun can be 100 grains of lead for comparison so all this has is speed , speed is the determing factor. if someone throws a small plastic bullet less than a gram at that block nothing will happen. but look at it blow a large hole :

 

[SeekingPeace164]

imo it's also the velocity of the bullet . speed kills.

There are some comments on this forum which show what i have already figured out. at 600 yds similar to 600 meters the bullet already lost a lot of speed but still is like a hand grenade. imagine at 3 inches to brain stem : so long brain stem so long head / brain . no more brain stem no more human forever. he says it messes up a coyote very badly at 1000 meters or yards. you know how much velocity and energy the bullet loses at 1000 meters? a lot and it still destroys a dog sized animal. so how could it not destroy a human head mine at 3 inches. ? how could i miss at 3 inches if they can hit at 1000 meters? people think you have to surgically strike the brain stem . imo velocity kills you hit the head it's gone ( Ronnie Mcnut video)

300 win with 125 gr. Ball. Tip

I am new to the forum but already I like it. I am proposing and an interesting thought. I have a 300 Win that I am trying to set up for coyote hunting. Now I know that this is not the taditional coyote set up but I don't get the traditional shots. I am looking to do some long range shooting...

www.longrangehunting.com

"I went to 110 V-Maxs and they are like a hand grenade, and even when you miss, you won't get bullets bouncing around - they come apart on the first dirt they hit. They will lift a large woodchuck 3 to 5 feet in the air out past 600yds, and tear up a feral dog or yote something awful at 1,000yds!

You can do very well with the 125 BT or the 110 V-Max."

this is a 10 grain small plastic bullet but it puts huge holes in clay blocks. grains are the weight and 10 grains is .65 of a grams less than a gram. a shotgun slug can be 500 grains of steel or lead. a handgun can be 100 grains of lead for comparison so all this has is speed , speed is the determing factor. if someone throws a small plastic bullet less than a gram at that block nothing will happen. but look at it blow a large hole :

So what's better, rifle or shotgun?

 

[b1cycle]

I've heard a lot of horror stories where the round gets stuck in the maxilla, and you end up with facial disfigurement and brain damage...

 

[lostmeaning]

I've heard a lot of horror stories where the round gets stuck in the maxilla, and you end up with facial disfigurement and brain damage...

Hmm never heard about that.. maybe it was because of too low of a caliber that it couldn't penetrate enough? But after looking it up sounds like it wouldn't be a problem for behind the ear method

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

So what's better, rifle or shotgun?

Both are very good 99% plus if deep in the mouth pointing up. Imo the main thing is to get the barrel at least 3 inches into the mouth to the back of the throat pointed up . I would grip it as tight as I can with the teeth. I found a plastic liner I can wrap around the barrel and tape it with gorilla tape so I can grip the barrel hard with my teeth. The main thing is to find a barrel that can fit deep in the mouth without huge sights on the end of the barrel. Practice dry firing in the mouth holding gun very firmly only moving trigger slowly grip with teeth too.

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Also depends on the rifle you have
If you have the 300 win mag and can get the ammo that is 3400 feet per second. Thats about as fast as that plastic bullet but the difference is the bullet is 125 grains 12 times heavier and steel not plastic. That would work . It obliterates the clay block and sends clay meters away




Here I found A shotgun vs clay blocks but it's a 410 which is much less powerful than a 12 gauge shotgun. 12 gauge shotgun would work too




Which do yo think?

 

[SeekingPeace164]

Both are very good 99% plus if deep in the mouth pointing up. Imo the main thing is to get the barrel at least 3 inches into the mouth to the back of the throat pointed up . I would grip it as tight as I can with the teeth. I found a plastic liner I can wrap around the barrel and tape it with gorilla tape so I can grip the barrel hard with my teeth. The main thing is to find a barrel that can fit deep in the mouth without huge sights on the end of the barrel. Practice dry firing in the mouth holding gun very firmly only moving trigger slowly grip with teeth too.

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Also depends on the rifle you have
If you have the 300 win mag and can get the ammo that is 3400 feet per second. Thats about as fast as that plastic bullet but the difference is the bullet is 125 grains 12 times heavier and steel not plastic. That would work . It obliterates the clay block and sends clay meters away




Here I found A shotgun vs clay blocks but it's a 410 which is much less powerful than a 12 gauge shotgun. 12 gauge shotgun would work too




Which do yo think?

Well, I think 3 inches into the mouth plus gripping with teeth would have it pointed towards the throat? According to ChatGBT the length from teeth to throat for adults is around 3 inches. With it that deep, it's harder to aim for the brain rather than the throat I think

 

[LaughingGoat]

Both are very good 99% plus if deep in the mouth pointing up. Imo the main thing is to get the barrel at least 3 inches into the mouth to the back of the throat pointed up . I would grip it as tight as I can with the teeth. I found a plastic liner I can wrap around the barrel and tape it with gorilla tape so I can grip the barrel hard with my teeth. The main thing is to find a barrel that can fit deep in the mouth without huge sights on the end of the barrel. Practice dry firing in the mouth holding gun very firmly only moving trigger slowly grip with teeth too.

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Also depends on the rifle you have
If you have the 300 win mag and can get the ammo that is 3400 feet per second. Thats about as fast as that plastic bullet but the difference is the bullet is 125 grains 12 times heavier and steel not plastic. That would work . It obliterates the clay block and sends clay meters away




Here I found A shotgun vs clay blocks but it's a 410 which is much less powerful than a 12 gauge shotgun. 12 gauge shotgun would work too




Which do yo think?

Not arguing, just trying to understand better; what is your motive for biting the barrel? To try holding the angle or preventing flinching?