Discussion Do you feel guilty about being on SaSu ?

[unluckysadness]

I mean being on this forum, and "helping" other to CTB. I believe God will forgive us all, but I believe in karma too, so I feel a little bit guilty

 

[knickknack81]

Well, technically people are not telling people what to do. They are providing the resoureces if someone choses to CTB. Honestly, I think it would be better to have a place like this that lists the pros and cons of methods, what are bad methods, etc As opposed to someone going in without any information, doing things wrong and making things ever worse for themselves. Ultimately, it is up to the person doing the act to decide what they want to do.

Personally, I am happy to have a site like this were I can ask questions, help others or just vent frustrations. It's quite therapeutic. I can't just talk to anyone about a subject matter like this. So im grad to have this place as an outlet.

 

[unluckysadness]

Well, technically people are not telling people what to do. They are providing the resoureces if someone choses to CTB. Honestly, I think it would be better to have a place like this that lists the pros and cons of methods, what are bad methods, etc As opposed to someone going in without any information, doing things wrong and making things ever worse for themselves. Ultimately, it is up to the person doing the act to decide what they want to do.

Personally, I am happy to have a site like this were I can ask questions, help others or just vent frustrations. It's quite therapeutic. I can't just talk to anyone about a subject matter like this. So im grad to have this place as an outlet.

well said i'm just thinking too much (which is a part of my presumed autism i think...)

 

[BradGuy123]

Yes. I feel guilty about being here. The reason why I am here is that there is a possibility that economic conditions might make it impossible for me to secure employment some day and I might have to CTB. I came here to plan a method for doing so if I had to do it one day. I discovered by reading posts here that doing it is not an easy thing. There is no easy, foolproof method. The guilt I feel is that I am even considering this and planning it as a contingency plan. If I did CTB it would devastate my mother and my other half. But if I got to that point I wouldn't have a choice.

 

[unluckysadness]

Yes. I feel guilty about being here. The reason why I am here is that there is a possibility that economic conditions might make it impossible for me to secure employment some day and I might have to CTB. I came here to plan a method for doing so if I had to do it one day. I discovered by reading posts here that doing it is not an easy thing. There is no easy, foolproof method. The guilt I feel is that I am even considering this and planning it as a contingency plan. If I did CTB it would devastate my mother and my other half. But if I got to that point I wouldn't have a choice.

i'm sorry for your situation :-( In fact I mean : do you feel guilty to be on this forum ? (I've change the title of my thread). English in not my language so sorry if i'm not very clear with my words...

 

[TransTaxEvader]

I do feel guilty. I still browse here looking for a "partner" to die with, even while being engaged to someone.

 

[Forever Sleep]

You don't have to give people method advice if you don't feel comfortable with that. I don't even feel knowledgable enough to chip in much advice on actual methods. Plus- the information is here for people to read. A lot of the questions repeated over and over are already answered in the megathreads or, with a search.

But, not really. I don't feel like respecting someone's right to choose suicide is the same as being in favour of it outright or encouraging them to do it.

Perhaps there are people on here for whom there might be concerns but generally, I would say they are nudged in the direction of recovery, if there is any sign of uncertainty or instability there.

I suppose when these sorts of moral dilemmas come up, I tend to think of my own situation. I'm just so grateful there is somewhere I can come to just be honest and have people empathise/ sympathise rather than respond with some knee jerk platitude or panicked response. So, why shouldn't other people also be entitled to that?

I think there sometimes is this weird notion here of- It's ok for me to commit suicide but, I'm not so sure it's the best decision for all these other people. While I think it is best to be on the cautious side, the likelihood could well be they're feeling exactly the same thing about us!

So- I also ask myself that question: What if people are questioning the severity of my motives? My (private) response would be that I don't appreciate that. It's my life, my problems and I'll figure out what I want to do. I also imagine a fair few members feel the same way.

 

[gonesoon!]

I have never helped someone ctb and I never will. I dont give advice. Nothing. Its cathartic too look at this site sometimes. That's all. I feel guilty because I want to leave the few people who still care about me.

 

[JealousOfTheElderly]

Do I feel guilty being on this site? Absolutely not. There is nothing to be ashamed of visiting this site. It's been far better than therapy or counseling.

No one is doing anything wrong by being on this site. Society itself should be ashamed of itself for making talking about suicide so taboo.

 

[NonEssential]

No, I've merely expressed why and what I want to do and how I'd do it. I've never encouraged anyone to do it.

 

[noname223]

I have a guilty conscience. I never helped someone to die and provided the best recovery ressources I could think of. But longterm members of SaSu are portrayed in media as monsters. I am cautious about my own suicide and personally I would not advice something to anyone which I would not advice to myself.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

No I do not feel guilty for being here; this forum is the only place where I do not feel guilty.

I also have not, and will not, ever encourage another person to end their own lives. I will not convince somebody else to stay alive - unless they have asked for a reason to - but I will never tell somebody that suicide is the correct answer either; this is the essence of the "pro-choice" stance: respecting another persons choice while while not being coercive.

 

[JohnRys]

No, I feel this place has done more to help people then probably any other on the internet, if anything im glad to be on it.

 

[tsumihoroboshi]

no. a common misconception is that this site "encourages" or "goads" people into ctb. it simply a place to vent your feelings and talk without constantly hearing "it gets better" or being threatened with hospitalisation. other people can understand how you feel here.

when you say goodbye here, you at least leave knowing the people here saying goodbye back aren't judging you for it.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

Not really. But I wouldn't blame someone if they did. Sometimes I feel I should've engaged with the boy whose death caused the whole Tantacrul debacle since I saw his final thread go up in real time. Sometimes I wonder if I would've made a difference but I generally feel I wouldn't have.

I think there were one or two other users whose confirmed passings aroused hints of similar sentiments in me but for the most part those who have CTB'd don't make me feel guilty about my participation here. As you can see by my post count even if I did it clearly wouldn't have stopped me...

 

[Cauliflour]

I mean being on this forum, and "helping" other to CTB. I believe God will forgive us all, but I believe in karma too, so I feel a little bit guilty

I feel guilty cause I'm not even the right kind of suicidal and I'm here asking people about the state of their pet cat if they go through with their suicide plan. I don't want the people here on this website to die because you're all so chill and nice. It feels wrong to have some sort of role in their potential death but I also don't want to sound like a pretentious prick like the media...

 

[bl33ding_heart]

I used to feel guilty for being on this site that's all about wanting to die while I'm in a relationship. But as of now, nah I don't have any care left in me anymore. I haven't helped anyone kill themself at all so I don't feel guilty about that.

 

[Fall_Apart]

Wait a minute, I think you've misunderstood the purpose of Sasu. No one here helps or encourages others to do CTB. This is a pro-choice site, so no help would be allowed. Please be careful what you write, because it means you're saying that Sasu users help others do CTB, which is false.

 

[Manic Panic]

First , I don't believe in a God so I don't think there is any punishment for helping others try and find peace here.
As a i previously worked in the medical field I feel as if I have a obligation to help anyone I can find peace .
Yes some people know I use this website but it helps me understand myself a little better and understand others with similar issues

 

[Hollowman]

No, I rarely feel anything anymore.

 

[Satori Komeiji]

The only thing I feel guilty about is not telling those close to me that I am on this site. I like being an open book with nothing to hide to my close friends usually. I don't give suicide advice either. I'm pro-choice but I don't want to be indirectly responsible for someones suicide. I've already got enough of a guilty conscience just living my life normally :/

 

[-nobodyknows-]

There's a lot of things about this place that I do not like/agree with, and so I actively avoid participating in such things.

However, given that this is pretty much the only place that I know of where I can actually talk about how I feel, I remain here.

I don't like that I am here. I don't know if guilt is really the right word. I guess it might be though, as I feel like I have no reason to feel the way I do.

 

[Namelesa]

Personally I would feel guilty if I didn't provide advice for methods when people have asked for it as I feel like its good we provide them the knowledge on how to die if thats what they want so that they are able to escape their suffering and not providing that info gives that person less choices and potential for more unwanted suffering. Whats more important I would say is that people can escape their suffering in whatever way the sit fit instead of making them have to recover or continue life. I also don't believe in any God but if they do exist I would say they are evil and I would reject them thinking suicide or giving method is wrong.

 

[Ijustcantanymore]

Nope. We all deserve a space where we can express what our shitty abusive society says we can't talk about because it's disruptive to the status quo.

I feel no guilt utilizing a resource that helps me and others.

 

[SchizoGymnast]

Sometimes. A little.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Nope, should I be mad because we finally get to speak our mind? I'm not helping others CTB , I am talking about my own reasons, about what I find disheartening; about how this society pushes us beyond rock bottom and corners us into a place where we can find no peace. Some are here because of physical health, some because of mental health, some because of fundamentally different views on how we should live as humans.

Neither of these are ever addressed in a humanely manner; all of them "can be fixed" with money, we are money generators. And this is keeping it very short and barely scratching the surface.

 

[AnimeSlayersFan]

I feel guilty of not joining faster, so many years wasted, I now can interact with people with a similar life perspective than me, people that listen, kindly, with no hidden agendas, as opposed to the "outer internet", inside of here, I don't see the evil mocking faces of strangers, but the warm, calm and relaxed gaze of a group of friends that care, and will not squint in disgust when I say "Hey, I don't feel too well today".

 

[whywere]

Do I feel guilty being here? NO

Where I am in this life span, I love helping folks and whatever one does here or their intention when they join is their business totally, I just love giving folks a smile and the knowledge that they are NEVER EVER alone.

I am 100% pro-choice in everything in life, let each soul find their own path WITHOUT any outside influence ever.

For me with 24/7 chronic pain from a very nasty car crash, if and when quantity overtakes quality of life, then decisions will be made.

One of the marks of a wonderful person is when they move on (die), it has nothing to do with money, fame, anything of said nature, it is how one has helped humanity and humans in moving forward.

Walter

Wait a minute, I think you've misunderstood the purpose of Sasu. No one here helps or encourages others to do CTB. This is a pro-choice site, so no help would be allowed. Please be careful what you write, because it means you're saying that Sasu users help others do CTB, which is false.

100% agree with you, period.

Walter

 

[bananaolympus]

No at all this is a great community

 

[RadiantNumber]

No, it's the best decision for me to be here