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nopurposeinanything

nopurposeinanything

lulu
Jan 3, 2026
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I know I've already asked this, but Im really concerned whether I have it or not. Im sure as hell not telling my parents or therapist—I don't want to deal with that. Can someone tell me the symptoms and shit?
 
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Whenhewhenyeah

Whenhewhenyeah

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Jan 5, 2026
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It is fine to ask your therapist, anyone here can give you symptoms (like extreme mood swings, acting impulsive and self harming) but only a doctor can fully confirm it, I don't think there is any risk in asking your doc.
 
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nopurposeinanything

nopurposeinanything

lulu
Jan 3, 2026
68
It is fine to ask your therapist, anyone here can give you symptoms (like extreme mood swings, acting impulsive and self harming) but only a doctor can fully confirm it, I don't think there is any risk in asking your doc.
True true. Also jjba pfp🤑🤑
 
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X-sanguinate86

Experienced
Sep 26, 2025
237
Some people with BPD have claimed they would prefer not to have it as an official diagnosis as it creates problems for them later but I am not really sure what is best. If you have severe mood swings (within short durations from one another as opposed to longer and cyclical) and abandonment issues then you might have it.
 
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nopurposeinanything

nopurposeinanything

lulu
Jan 3, 2026
68
Some people with BPD have claimed they would prefer not to have it as an official diagnosis as it creates problems for them later but I am not really sure what is best. If you have severe mood swings and abandonment issues then you might have it.
Well, I get severe mood swings when something doesn't go my way, or just something small makes me feel like shit—but im not sure if that really counts.
 
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venerated-vader

venerated-vader

ooOOooOOooOOoo
Mar 11, 2025
187
Misdiagnosing BPD for Bipolar Disorder or vice versa happens a lot so I recommend talking to your therapist!
 
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whywere

Illuminated
Jun 26, 2020
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I have had BPD all my life.

For me it is this: 1) Big mood swings all over the place, one minute happy the next? who knows!

2) The fear of being alone or abandonment, this part for me is so very hard to handle.

3) If one is in a relationship, it can be VERY intense and unstable.

For me, I so dislike it, as no matter how much I try and work on it, out of the blue, something can trigger me and BANG! I can get a very intense outburst, which usually is VERY embarrassing to say the least.

Hugs to you and hope this helps a little, as you are family here and we are ALL together period.

Walter
 
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dangerstars

dangerstars

lover, hopeless wannabe.
Nov 6, 2025
27
for me what causes the most problems are

huge mood swings - that's probably the biggest overlap with bipolar disorder, but unlike with BD my mood can change massively in 5 minutes

really fucked up relationships, severe fear of abandonment to the point of reckless actions to try to avoid it, and just freaking the fuck out over the tiniest things. i have had entire meltdowns over my friends being busier or not as close with me or close with someone else

there's 9 main criteria for diagnosis and i think you need to hit 5 for diagnosis, i experience all of them and probably should've been diagnosed a long time ago but i don't think diagnosis is always a good idea
 
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ShadowedChaos

ShadowedChaos

LostSoul
Oct 2, 2024
31
Yeah BPD gets misdiagnosed as something else and vice versa all the time you also should be careful and carefully look and be sure it might not just be trauma or something like C-PTSD or something else with combination of other things while you can have BPD with plenty of other things other things can present as BPD but sometimes after dealing with a part of it or you are able to deal or at least start dealing with trauma you may not even meet classification criteria for it anymore start with all the base symptoms or diagnostic criteria for it and go from there if it does start to feel that you may have it or particularly feel it call but it is something you have to have a discussion about and it is something you don't want as a diagnosis if it doesn't fit you but either way the treatments may still be of benefit.
 
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woofwag

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Sep 17, 2025
342
I would recommend looking up the official DSM-5 criteria, but I can tell you a bit about my personal experience, since the DSM doesn't cover everything. It's also a lot of things I have in common with my other BPD friends.

- Big mood swings, uncontrollable anger fluctuating to apologetic behavior, often in a self-depricating way. Euphoria to depression in a matter of hours or days, sometimes even minutes at my worst.
- Fluctuations from extreme valuation to antagonist thoughts/actions towards different people in my life. Most of the time it's centered around someone I am fixated on.
- Fixation on people. I become single mindedly obsessed with someone and can't control my spiraling thoughts about them. Any tiny indication they're upset with me often leads to the conclusion that they hate me. And sometimes that they're intentionally ignoring me, so actually I hate them too. Then I love them again once I forgive them, and idealize them to the point of seeing them as the most interesting/best person ever. The cycle continues.
- Self-harming behavior. Eating disorders in the past. Suicide attempts. I even faked a suicide attempt at one point, when I was much younger.
- Impulsive behaviors. Spending money I don't have, unsafe sex with multiple people, binging, intentionally putting myself in dangerous situations, substance abuse, etc.
- Fluctuating identity. Not sure what/who I am. Doesn't help that I have DID.

Anyway, hope that helps. Keep up with research about it to make sure you think that this is an accurate diagnosis. Personally I think self-diagnosis is valid as long as you actually understand what you're diagnosing yourself with.
 
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venerated-vader

ooOOooOOooOOoo
Mar 11, 2025
187
If you don't mind me asking, what's the difference between the two?
So I have Bipolar II and NPD, which is a part of the same cluster of personality disorders as BPD. I can only describe the difference between Bipolar and BPD from my point of view since I'm not a doctor or anything. Bear in mind I have a lot of issues, though... lol (Also this is long and I am so sorry 😭)

For Bipolar Disorder:

My mood swings happen in large, broad strokes across long periods of time. I notice them by looking at the trend in my thinking and behavior. When I notice I'm sleeping more ('oops I woke up after a solid 12 hours and I'm still tired!') and speak softer, slower, etc, I can tell I'm probably having a depressive flareup. Also, in those moments, my capacity to feel happy is brief, like a spark that fizzles out as compared to a campfire. So I could be feeling good, or laughing / having a good time, but if I wait long enough (10-20 minutes) the good feelings fade and I feel depressed, tired, numb again. It feels as if I was never happy.

There doesn't seem to be an outward 'trigger' for me losing the 'afterglow' of joy, and half the time there isn't even a 'reason' I can point to that would justify my depression.

But I also have hypomanic episodes, which involve me wanting to spend an inordinate amount of money on whatever I'm excited about and sign myself up for a dozen responsibilities (like taking a class, joining a club, scheduling a bunch of social events, etc). I drive faster, sing a lot, go places and make tons of plans that are way outside my capacity. I also can't get much sleep: I know I'm manic when the max amount of time I spend in bed is about 4 hours or less. If that happens for a week straight, I'm having a hypomanic episode. Full blown mania is also characterized by hallucinations, but I have Bipolar II which isn't characterized by full-blown mania. If you're manic (and that can be independent of bipolar disorder, because ADHD folx have this too) you'll find yourself talking fast, ridiculously energized, and sometimes fidgety / unable to sit still. I'm also incredibly easy to agitate, but that's my baseline so it's hard to tell the difference lol.

For BPD

Personality disorders are more a developmental thing, in that your personality has changed due to a traumatic experience in childhood, and you've learned to cope by changing who you are. Identity disturbance in BPD is (from what I understand) similar to what I experience with NPD, which is that I find it difficult to separate who you are from who you believe you need to be (or how you think you need to act) to receive the love you really, really want.

Folx with BPD might look for sympathy, for example, by talking up their bad experiences or trauma to different people. It's gratifying to do so, because it feels like they're 'seen', and that validation is critical to their mental health. But if someone fails to rise to that challenge (IE: isn't giving that validation), the behaviors the person with BPD displays become more severe, to get the affection they're lookin for. At least, that's how I understand it.

Folx I've talked to have said they have these times where they meet someone and are instantly in love with them... like, in a single day. But should that relationship not work out (because the 'love' is 'infatuation', and built on expectations, not reality), thus enters the mood swings. I'm talking outbursts, depression, rage, etc. Or they have a 'favorite person' from whom they need attention and love, and if that person can't spend time with them or something, they're heartbroken and feel rejected / abandoned / etc., which leads to severe emotional distress. Fear of abandonment is a big one.

BPD and NPD are considered incredibly similar compared to the other Cluster B personality disorders. I also did a lot of research on both of them which is why I felt confident enough to share what I know. There's obviously a lot more nuance to it though!
 
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CGN83

CGN83

Member
Jan 1, 2026
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I know I've already asked this, but Im really concerned whether I have it or not. Im sure as hell not telling my parents or therapist—I don't want to deal with that. Can someone tell me the symptoms and shit?
It's a diagnosis nobody wants. Mental Health services use this diagnosis so they can wash their hands off of you. No help is ever given after a BPD diagnosis, in the UK at least.
 
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itsallogrenow

itsallogrenow

At Peace
Jun 13, 2024
87
It's a diagnosis nobody wants. Mental Health services use this diagnosis so they can wash their hands off of you. No help is ever given after a BPD diagnosis, in the UK at least.
I literally told my GP last week that I was planning to kill myself and its the only thing bringing me peace at the moment.

Had a referral to the mental health team who said I need anti depressants and talking therapy.

I've been given 10mg of Citalopram (a really small dose for those who don't know) and expected to wait for an appointment for the talking therapy.

Pretty sure I'm being dismissed due to my EUPD (BPD) but I'll be dead before that appointment comes through.
 
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leloyon

I'll see you in the Wired.
Feb 4, 2023
1,714
I have had BPD all my life.

For me it is this: 1) Big mood swings all over the place, one minute happy the next? who knows!

2) The fear of being alone or abandonment, this part for me is so very hard to handle.

3) If one is in a relationship, it can be VERY intense and unstable.

For me, I so dislike it, as no matter how much I try and work on it, out of the blue, something can trigger me and BANG! I can get a very intense outburst, which usually is VERY embarrassing to say the least.

Hugs to you and hope this helps a little, as you are family here and we are ALL together period.

Walter
Yeah, this is more or less my experience with it too. I've yapped about it more on other BPD-related threads.
I literally told my GP last week that I was planning to kill myself and its the only thing bringing me peace at the moment.

Had a referral to the mental health team who said I need anti depressants and talking therapy.

I've been given 10mg of Citalopram (a really small dose for those who don't know) and expected to wait for an appointment for the talking therapy.

Pretty sure I'm being dismissed due to my EUPD (BPD) but I'll be dead before that appointment comes through.
Anglo mental health system at its most efficient. Currently waiting to see a psychiatrist again next March. Eurgh.
(also on an unrelated note I love your username lmao. Shrek is love, Shrek is life.)


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InevitableDeath

InevitableDeath

Already Dead
Jan 4, 2026
293
Here you go The DSM-V The MH Industry Bible.

The farce that launched a thousand shits.

All of it.

Knock yourself out.
 
jeevasO-o

jeevasO-o

Disqualified As a Human Being
Jan 15, 2026
82
(THIS IS FROM THE ACTUAL DSM5. I MADE IT SIMPLIFIED AND SHORTER SUMMARY WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFO)
I have this summary hope it helps!
BPD isn't that easy to understand. BPD often very often gets mixed up with Autism, Bipolar, PTSD/C-PTSD, ADHD, Anxiety.

GENERAL Critea:
!A consistent way someone thinks, feels, and acts that is very different from what is usual in their culture. This pattern shows up in TWO OR MORE of the following areas:

1) Cognitive (ex: ways of perceiving and interpreting yourself, other people, and events).
2) Affectivity (ex: the range, intensity, lability and appropriateness of emotional response).
3) Interpersonal functioning (How you function in relationships with other people.)
4) Impulsive control
A-The consistent pattern is rigid and shows up in many different personal and social situations.
B-This pattern causes serious problems or distress in social life, work, or other important areas of daily functioning.

-General Personality Disorder:

A-The pattern is long-lasting and steady, and it can be traced back to at least your teenage years or early adulthood.
B-This pattern is not better explained by another mental health condition.
C-This pattern is not caused by the physical effects of drvgs, medications, or other medical conditions like head injuries.

!!!Diagnose Criteria!!! [ DC ]
A common pattern where someone's relationships, one's sense of who they are, and their feelings are often unstable, and they tend to act on impulse. This usually starts in early adult years and shows up in many different parts of life. NEED *ATLEAST* 5 OF FOLLOWING FOR A DIAGNOSIS (or more):

1) Intense fear of abandonment and being very worried,anxious, feeling stressed, overwhelmed about abandonment, even if it's imagined abandonment, which means it's just imagined and not actually happening abandonment. [*NOTE*: Do not include behaviors that involve thoughts of svicide or self harm behavior in 5)].

2) A repeated pattern of unstable and intense relationships with others, where feelings quickly switch between extremes. (Black - White thinking) From loving and idealizing (possible obsession, seeing them as completely perfect..) to devaluation or disappointed (possible Despising, anger, fear, feeling cold towards them..)

3) Identity disturbance. Having often no idea who you are, An unstable and constantly changing view of who you are. (Could be constantly hating or loving how you are, changing hobbies, goals, likes, dislikes suddenly) [*NOTE*: VERY UNSTABLE. It's normal to have no idea who you are yet and have changes in your life!]

4) Impulsivity. ATLEAST IN 2 AREAS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY SELF HARMING! (Ex: Spending, sex, drvgs, reckless driving, binge eating, stealing, lying, thrill seeking, self sabotaging relationship etc..) [*NOTE*: DOES NOT INCLUDE SVICDE AND SELF HARMING FROM 5!!)

5) Repeated svicidal behavior, threats, gestures, or self harm behaviors.

6) Having mood swings that change quickly and strongly, such as feeling depressed, irritable, anxious, euphoric, happy, hyper for a few hours, minutes, and mostly lasting / switching only a short time rather than days. Rarely CAN be days. [*NOTE*: not to mix up with bipolar! There the mood swings switch from Mania/Hypomania to Depression in mostly weeks, months. Sometimes days / about 3 days~]

7) Chronic feelings of emptiness, constantly feeling empty.

8) Getting intensively angry easily or/and having trouble controlling that anger. (Ex: often showing anger, constant anger / upsetness, getting into physical or/and verbal fights, getting angry about small things)

9) Sudden temporary paranoid thoughts and/or intense dissociation symptoms that are stress related, even if it's only something minor. [*NOTE*: If it's constant Paranoia and/or dissociation it could be something else like chronic dissociation, PTSD, schizophrenia..]

X-| Diagnostic and Features:
Borderline personality disorder is mainly about having very unstable relationships, a shaky sense of who you are, intense emotions, and impulsive actions that often cause problems in different areas of life. It usually starts in early adulthood.

(DC 1) When they sense that someone might leave or when their daily routines change unexpectedly, they can have strong reactions - feeling deep sadness, anger, anxiety, euphoria, dysphoria or despair. They might get upset over small things, like someone being a few minutes late, having to cancel a meetup, end a session early. Making them believe that it's abandonment. Feeling abandoned makes them feel that they are "bad." Their fear of being alone them try to keep others close, which can lead to impulsive behaviors like hurting themselves or even thinking about svicide. These acts are often ways to cope with feelings of rejection or to feel something when they feel empty inside.

(DC 2) Many people with this disorder have very intense and unpredictable relationships. They might initially see someone as perfect, caring, idealizing them, But soon after, their feelings can flip, and they might start thinking that the other person doesn't care anymore, is evil, devaluing them. Often it's heavy with one particular person, who's their "favorite person" (often called "FP") They feel emotionally dependent on them, feel like their lives would be over without them, even after switching. They react stronger with them, if they act slightly different, they can see it as a threat of abandonment. They might keep switching from obsession to hate. (Of course depending on the severity. Some might have it less severe!) Their view of others can change suddenly, from seeing someone as a hero to thinking they are mean, uncaring, a villain..., These shifts often happen after feeling betrayed or rejected by someone they trusted. It's called "splitting".

(DC 3) They also often struggle with a very unstable sense of who they are. This means their goals, beliefs, and even their ideas about things like careers or sexuality can change quickly. They might suddenly see themselves differently, from someone needing help to someone angry and vengeful. At times they feel like they don't exist at all, especially when they lack close relationships or support. This can make it hard for them to do well in school or work.

(DC 4) Impulsiveness is another key feature. They might take risks like gambling, overspending, binge eating, using drugs or alcohol, engaging in unsafe sex, or driving recklessly. Getting easily bored, they may constantly seek something to do.

(DC 5) Many will threaten or/and do attempt svicide and self harm especially when feeling rejected or overwhelmed. These acts are often ways to try to feel in control or to escape feelings of evil or guilt. Recurrent suicidality is often the reason that these individuals present for help. Self harm may occur during dissociative experiences and often brings relief by reaffirming the ability to feel, be real or deal with guilt. There are many different reasons why someone might turn to self harm.

(DC 6) They may display affective instability that is due to a marked reactivity of mood disorder may be troubled by chronic feelings of emptiness.
Their mood swings can be very intense and quick, lasting only hours or minutes or rarely a few days. They might often feel empty inside and seek constant activity or change to distract themselves.

(DC 8) Anger is common, they might have explosive outbursts or be sarcastic and bitter. This anger is usually triggered by feeling neglected or abandoned and can be followed by feelings of shame or guilt, reinforcing negative thoughts about themselves. There's also "silent BPD" which isn't a diagnosis itself or an official "type". There the anger is more silent and inside than loud and outward. They mostly somewhat hide the mood swings and try to hold back the anger, but still feel it with same intensity. It's less obvious and not as loud, but still the same. They frequently express inappropriate, intense anger or have difficulty controlling their anger. They may display in sarcasm, bitterness or outbursts. The anger is often when a loved one is seen as neglectful, withholding, uncaring or abandoning. Such expressions of anger are often followed by huge shame and guilt and contribute to the feeling they have of being evil.

(DC 7,9] During these huge stressful moments, they may temporarily experience paranoia and/or feel very disconnected from reality (dissociation, depersonalization) especially after fears of abandonment. Mostly lasting minutes or hours.
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1-Associated Features Supporting Diagnosis:
People with this disorder often sabotage themselves just before they are about to succeed (dropping out of school just before graduation or ending a good relationship when things seem to be going well.) Under stress, they might also temporary experience psychotic like symptoms; hallucinations, distorted perceptions, delusions..., They often feel more comfortable with objects like pets or possessions than with people. Many face repeated job losses, education disruptions, or separations from loved ones. Their childhoods often include experiences of abuse, neglect, or losing a loved one, which may contribute to their difficulties. This disorder often occurs alongside other mental health issues, like depression, bipolar disorder, substance abuse, eating problems (often bulimia), PTSD, ADHD or other personality disorders. But it often gets misdiagnosed too, due similarities.
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2-Development and Course:
The course of BPD varies. Most common experience is ongoing instability in early adulthood, with intense emotional ups and downs, impulsive behaviors, and possibly many hospital visits. However, these problems tend to improve some over time. As they get older, especially into their 30s and 40s, many find they have more stable relationships and are functioning better. Half of those diagnosed no longer meet all the criteria after around ~10 years of treatment and support. Having a family member with this disorder is about five times more common than in the general population, and childhood trauma is often linked to developing it.
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3-Differential Diagnosis:
Additionally, it's important to rule out mental changes caused by medical illnesses or drvg use and to distinguish this disorder from normal struggles with identity that are part of development, like in puberty with teenagers. (TEENAGERS CAN HAVE BPD THO!!)
 

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