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avalokitesvara

avalokitesvara

bodhisattva
Nov 28, 2024
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what books have you read lately? or currently reading?

i usually have several books on the go at once bc my concentration is really bad and i get distracted. at the moment i have going:

self and others by r d laing
i'm primarily interested in what is to be a self, a subjectivity, and what it means to be in subject/object relationships. this book has made me cry a few times from recognising the futility or at least extreme difficulty of actually connecting authentically with others. we're always using others to maintain our own self-image or play out a phantasy. i recognise my essential loneliness here and why i have only ever felt connected authentically with other people who practice zen, because none of us is pursuing an agenda or a self-image. where the void is present within the relationship.

some quotes:
"separateness between man and man, that no love, nor the most complete experience of union, completely or permanently annuls."
"the greater need there is to get out of an untenable position, the less chance there is of doing so. the more untenable the position is, the more difficult it is to get out of it… by untenable, i mean that is impossible to leave and impossible to stay. in an alienated untenable position one does not realise this. hence why it is impossible to get out. as soon as paul realises that he is in a box, he can try to get out of it. but since to them the box is the whole world, to get out of the box is tantamount to stepping off the end of the world, a thing that no one who loves him could sit by and let happen"


rethinking consciousness by michael graziano
i watched a video about graziano's "attention schema theory" (link in profile) and it tied up with a previous book i've read on the neuroscience of consciousness (the ego tunnel by thomas metzinger). i am pretty firmly convinced that the attention schema theory answers the question of concsiousness. if you're interested i recommend the video from simon roper. he expresses it pretty clearly. graziano's book also deals with animal and other forms of consciousness which i find very interesting. he's also pretty funny and the book is very accessible. later in the book he discusses machine learning and ai which i'm looking forward to, might make another thread about that when i get there.

cranford by elizabeth gaskell
this is the cosiest book in the world and i have a very old edition that belonged to me great great aunt. instant comfort. i wish i lived in cranford.
 
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Alexei_Kirillov

Alexei_Kirillov

i must rest here a moment
Mar 9, 2024
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Just finished Annals of the Former World (a book about the geologic history of North America) by John McPhee last night. Now reading Rousseau's The Social Contract.

i'm primarily interested in what is to be a self, a subjectivity, and what it means to be in subject/object relationships. this book has made me cry a few times from recognising the futility or at least extreme difficulty of actually connecting authentically with others. we're always using others to maintain our own self-image or play out a phantasy. i recognise my essential loneliness here and why i have only ever felt connected authentically with other people who practice zen, because none of us is pursuing an agenda or a self-image. where the void is present within the relationship.
This reminds me of Schopenhauer's famous hedgehog analogy:

One cold winter's day, a number of porcupines huddled together quite closely in order through their mutual warmth to prevent themselves from being frozen. But they soon felt the effect of their quills on one another, which made them again move apart. Now when the need for warmth once more brought them together, the drawback of the quills was repeated so that they were tossed between two evils, until they had discovered the proper distance from which they could best tolerate one another. Thus the need for society which springs from the emptiness and monotony of men's lives, drives them together; but their many unpleasant and repulsive qualities and insufferable drawbacks once more drive them apart. [...] the need for mutual warmth will be only imperfectly satisfied, but on the other hand, the prick of the quills will not be felt.

"the greater need there is to get out of an untenable position, the less chance there is of doing so. the more untenable the position is, the more difficult it is to get out of it… by untenable, i mean that is impossible to leave and impossible to stay. in an alienated untenable position one does not realise this. hence why it is impossible to get out. as soon as paul realises that he is in a box, he can try to get out of it. but since to them the box is the whole world, to get out of the box is tantamount to stepping off the end of the world, a thing that no one who loves him could sit by and let happen"
Am currently in an untenable position, can confirm.
 
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avalokitesvara

avalokitesvara

bodhisattva
Nov 28, 2024
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Just finished Annals of the Former World (a book about the geologic history of North America) by John McPhee last night. Now reading Rousseau's The Social Contract.

that sounds cool, i like geology as well. or the broad concepts, i get a bit bored reading about it in detail ;0

This reminds me of Schopenhauer's famous hedgehog analogy:

laing comes to it from a more fundamental place; in psychoanalysis we build our sense of self out of the other starting with the infant with the mother's breast. it's not that there's necessarily a barrier put up on purpose like in the hedgehog analogy, but that we only or at least mostly use the Other as a mirror of ourselves, and it is rare to really be actually present to anothers' true nature.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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Genome: The Autobiography of a Species in 23 Chapters

David eagleman 2 books . The Brain. Live wired.

Thomas logotti. "Conspiracy against the human race"

Ever deeper honesty book
free ebook to download , the truth about life and non-existence

Sarah Perry "every cradle is a grave"






 
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knighterrant

knighterrant

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Dec 27, 2024
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"The Journals of Sylvia Plath 1950–1962" (Plath suffered from clinical depression for most of her adult life and was repeatedly treated with early versions of electroconvulsive therapy. She died by suicide in 1963.) While reading



Barbara Rosiek: "Diary of a Drug Addict", a book she started at the age of 14 and finished in college, describing her life dominated by the fight against drug addiction. Breaking the habit was a long and difficult process for Rosiek, requiring perseverance and strength. She won and graduated.
This is probably the most important book in my life. This is the basis of my interest in literature.
I will read it in its entirety


Edward Stachura (died by suicide) ''Fabuła Rasa'' Reflections on life, philosophy, poetry and reaching the deepest layers of one's own consciousness. While reading


Antoni Kępiński "Schizophrenia": simply a scientific book for laypeople about schizophrenia
While reading
 
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casual_existence

casual_existence

Experienced
Jul 29, 2023
242
I've been reading The Crimes of Patriots: A True Tale of Dope, Dirty Money, and the CIA by Jonathan Kwitny. It's about the Nugan Hand Bank events in the 70s-80s and how many criminal activities of that time were connected to the bank. It also talks about suspected links to the CIA though apparently this was never properly confirmed. Also I was kind of surprised on just how many military people were connected to illegal activity. Most of them were from the Vietnam war and some even had medals but I guess war does something to you. This book can never truly answer many questions but it does give a nice overview of the situation.
what books have you read lately? or currently reading?

i usually have several books on the go at once bc my concentration is really bad and i get distracted. at the moment i have going:

self and others by r d laing
i'm primarily interested in what is to be a self, a subjectivity, and what it means to be in subject/object relationships. this book has made me cry a few times from recognising the futility or at least extreme difficulty of actually connecting authentically with others. we're always using others to maintain our own self-image or play out a phantasy. i recognise my essential loneliness here and why i have only ever felt connected authentically with other people who practice zen, because none of us is pursuing an agenda or a self-image. where the void is present within the relationship.

some quotes:
"separateness between man and man, that no love, nor the most complete experience of union, completely or permanently annuls."
"the greater need there is to get out of an untenable position, the less chance there is of doing so. the more untenable the position is, the more difficult it is to get out of it… by untenable, i mean that is impossible to leave and impossible to stay. in an alienated untenable position one does not realise this. hence why it is impossible to get out. as soon as paul realises that he is in a box, he can try to get out of it. but since to them the box is the whole world, to get out of the box is tantamount to stepping off the end of the world, a thing that no one who loves him could sit by and let happen"


rethinking consciousness by michael graziano
i watched a video about graziano's "attention schema theory" (link in profile) and it tied up with a previous book i've read on the neuroscience of consciousness (the ego tunnel by thomas metzinger). i am pretty firmly convinced that the attention schema theory answers the question of concsiousness. if you're interested i recommend the video from simon roper. he expresses it pretty clearly. graziano's book also deals with animal and other forms of consciousness which i find very interesting. he's also pretty funny and the book is very accessible. later in the book he discusses machine learning and ai which i'm looking forward to, might make another thread about that when i get there.

cranford by elizabeth gaskell
this is the cosiest book in the world and i have a very old edition that belonged to me great great aunt. instant comfort. i wish i lived in cranford.
If you're interested in the more physiological side of neuroscience then I highly recommend this youtube channel

If you're interested in a theoretical framework for human social connections, some neuroscience and some theories on consciousness then I recommend writings from Steven Byrnes on the website Lesswrong

And another user Kaj Sotala Specifically this series of articles
 
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missedmybus

missedmybus

Out of the Psych Ward, into Insanity
Feb 2, 2025
115
Last book I read was Denis Johnson's Jesus' Son. Great collection of short stories.

I would recommend James Joyce Dubliners for some nice melancholy stories. Herman Hesse Steppenwolf is nice as well.

I also really like Robert Anton Wilson illuminati Trilogy!
 
tiredtired

tiredtired

Member
Feb 1, 2025
52
Macbeth. Grim stuff. People aren't the kindest.
 
quietism

quietism

We make our own wind
Feb 3, 2025
81
One book I read recently is "Investigating the Stanford Prison Experiment", which reviews new evidence that seriously impairs the credibility of the 1971 experiment, one of the most iconic results in all of psychology. Around that time I also got a copy of The Art of Electronics, I would really like to have more electrical engineering skills. For fiction, I tried reading House of Leaves for inspiration writing my own sci fi novel, but I couldn't really get into it. There are also a few josei manga I really submerged myself in which I wrote about in this thread.

[1] Le Texier, Thibault. Investigating the Stanford Prison Experiment: History of a Lie. Cham: Springer Nature Switzerland, 2024. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-49292-1.
[2] Horowitz, Paul, and Winfield Hill. The Art of Electronics. Third edition, 20th printing with corrections. Cambridge, New York: Cambridge University Press, 2024.
 

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