Help Being asked about my method by mental health services

[jojobanana]

So I made a huge mistake today.

I wasn't coping well and did not sleep at all. I woke up early and phoned the out of service counselling team available to me.

In the past when I've spoken to them about planning and how I feel I've been honest that I know how I'll do it. I've never told them how. I have SN. They just asked me questions about what it was and how you use it. I didn't tell them what it was or how i got it. I just kept repeating that I was safe today. Though I feel I may use it soon.

So I said the wrong things and they phoned my friend and then called ambulance to do a welfare check. I basically begged them to not let them come to my house because i'm so afraid of them. A few people phoned me. The ambulance crew twice, the counselling team and the out of hours team.

They kept questioning me about what it was. They said they got the impression it was poison. I told them it was a misunderstanding and it isn't poison. I did lie that i didn't have it immediately available but I could get it if I want. I don't want anyone to take it because I know if I don't have it I'll just find another way.

They eventually believed me when I said I was safe. Which I am for now. But I regret saying anything.

I did want to ask them genuinely what am i supposed to do when i'm in trouble? if my method doesn't work i don't want to be alone with the ambulance crew or police. i don't want to be alone at all with them.

if things go wrong i just don't want to be alone.

 

[ilovenewyork]

It is poison

 

[jojobanana]

It is poison

it's a meat cure

 

[Worndown]

Choose your words carefully.

 

[TheTwelthRootOfTwo]

There is no way in HELL that I would give my SN to anyone, or even tell them where it is! I don't mind sharing my plans with anyone (after-all, if I'm going to do it, no one is going to stop me). But as far as details that could make it impossible, forget it. Having that SN close by at all times, is like a comfort.

 

[Kamaainakupua]

I wasn't coping well and did not sleep at all. I woke up early and phoned the out of service counselling team available to me.

I think I see the problem...

It is poison

Shhh! Not so loud They're listening!!

Choose your words carefully.

Best advice ever, applicable in a multitude of situations.

I hope you feel better (i.e. after having been interrogated, wiggling your way out of it, and then realizing that in their zeal to "protect/save" you, they never fully resolved the issues for which you called them).

Thanks, guys. I'm safe.

 

[jojobanana]

There is no way in HELL that I would give my SN to anyone, or even tell them where it is! I don't mind sharing my plans with anyone (after-all, if I'm going to do it, no one is going to stop me). But as far as details that could make it impossible, forget it. Having that SN close by at all times, is like a comfort.

this is how i feel too!

I think I see the problem...

Shhh! Not so loud They're listening!!

Best advice ever, applicable in a multitude of situations.

I hope you feel better (i.e. after having been interrogated, wiggling your way out of it, and then realizing that in their zeal to "protect/save" you, they never fully resolved the issues for which you called them).

Thanks, guys. I'm safe.

i've definitely learned my lesson

 

[Kamaainakupua]

At least you're out here still. It could have been worse.

 

[whywere]

It is like the 1st time that I was in a psychic ward. Be friendly, cooperative and the like and talk.

OH BOY!!! was THAT a mistake. When they dragged me into court to try and get a long commitment against at a state run facility, they used everything that I had told them AGAINST me.

I was like: "what the heck??" and learned VERY quickly, keep mouth shut, head down and get the hell out.

Same as with you, NEVER EVER say anything to anyone except on here.

I learned the VERY hard way.

Walter

 

[Tenir bon]

I wish I knew what to say here, from what I've read chances are low that anything will go wrong given your method. I understand not wanting to be alone but your only options are to be with someone who won't stop you when you attempt or to contact someone you trust before you contact the authorities (but there's a good chance you won't have time to contact anyone).

 

[rainatthebusstop]

Suicide helplines are a scam. Do not tell them anything. Do not admit to anything ever.

Mental health services are designed to strip you of your rights and lock you up until you do the song and dance the way they want you.
Never trust them.
Lie if necessary.
Deny everything.

 

[Worndown]

Well, quality services should work with you.
You do need to agree with the treatment. That is often the first problem.
Some places are looking for cash flow. Billibgs are more important than services.

 

[jojobanana]

It is like the 1st time that I was in a psychic ward. Be friendly, cooperative and the like and talk.

OH BOY!!! was THAT a mistake. When they dragged me into court to try and get a long commitment against at a state run facility, they used everything that I had told them AGAINST me.

I was like: "what the heck??" and learned VERY quickly, keep mouth shut, head down and get the hell out.

Same as with you, NEVER EVER say anything to anyone except on here.

I learned the VERY hard way.

Walter

court what do you mean? can they arrest you for SN
i'm in the uk btw

 

[whywere]

court what do you mean? can they arrest you for SN
i'm in the uk btw

No, it is NOT about SN.

The 1st time that I was put in a psychic ward, from the get-go I had, I am in the Midwest of the U.S., a doctor who was trained in the U.S.S.R. and she was NOT nice at all ever. When I was hauled into the ward, she was the doctor on duty for intake and to say that she was blunt and VERY demanding was a prelude. When I pushed back and/or asked questions she would say nothing back.

A day or two later a deputy sheriff came into my room with a badge clipped to his belt so I could see it and dropped a HUGE pile of papers on my bed and left. The very front page stated that the state that I lived in was taking me to court to try and get at least a year long commitment against me to a state run facility.

About a week later 2 deputies came to my room and took me in a van with bars on it across town to the courthouse. I was put in a holding cell along with drug dealers, and all sort of interesting folks. I stayed in the corner of the room till a court bailiff came and took me to the court room.

I had to do everything that I could, as I did NOT want to be locked up for at least a year.

The outcome was no commitment; HOWEVER, I had to do a 14-week IOP and have a court appointed mental health person come to my apartment once a week for a year and I had to do and behave or else back to court.

This is why I always say about a psychic ward, shut up, keep one's head down and get the HELL out.

Walter