Anyone have suicide attempt nde?

[John Smith]

I want to know what I'm getting into

 

[Deleted member 847]

No, but today while I was meditating I heard a voice telling me "It's okay, it's your choice". Weird But yeah regardless if NDE are hallucinations or real, you'll experience it especially if you'll die by asphyxia like me (DMT releases in the brain before death).

 

[lv-gras]

yes, but doubt it will help all that much, seems to be an individual thing

 

[John Smith]

yes, but doubt it will help all that much, seems to be an individual thing

what happened?

 

[Deleted member 847]

http://www.nderf.org/NDERF/Articles/barbara_blind.htm What do you guys think about this article?

 

[creatureoflight]

go read on the site near-death.com and on NDERF, loads of NDEs there and many with profound insights

 

[lv-gras]

what happened?

would rather not give details, as said personal. but would call it a neutral experience.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

If you want to have a chance at your own obe/nde get some nitrous oxide. In my opinion these are real experiences, however that's not to say that it still could be a product of the brain (just not understood). If successful you experience complete separation of consciousness from the body,floating ect., Not at all dream like, it feels as real as this reality.

 

[Deleted member 847]

Well guys if NDE are real and there's an afterlife (I hope so) we will all have one, drugs taken or not.

 

[creatureoflight]

If you want to have a chance at your own obe/nde get some nitrous oxide. In my opinion these are real experiences, however that's not to say that it still could be a product of the brain (just not understood). If successful you experience complete separation of consciousness from the body,floating ect., Not at all dream like, it feels as real as this reality.

Actually some people get NDEs on ketamine, they are very similar but different from true NDEs. There have been experiments on this

 

[Comatose11]

Some studies suggest they are nothing more than hallucinations and your brain playing tricks on you. I haven't had one but have heard of people who have been in cardiac arrest and said it was nothingness.

 

[Deleted member 847]

Comatose most of those studies are biased because they're made by materialists

 

[shattered dreams]

Some studies suggest they are nothing more than hallucinations and your brain playing tricks on you. I haven't had one but have heard of people who have been in cardiac arrest and said it was nothingness.

There is no way anyone could recall experiencing "nothingness." Nothingness would mean no consciousness. I had liposuction back in 2002, and I remember being told that I was being put under and then I was immediately experiencing pain from the surgery with no time in between. Even though I was put under for 2-3 hours, I had no recollection of that time. That is what nothingness is. To put it another way, if reincarnation was real, you could die and be dead for a million years. You could then be reincarnated into a baby. To you, it would feel if you transitioned instantly from your body to a baby.

 

[Deleted member 847]

Here's my theory on unconsciousness. It doesn't exist. It's time travel. WOHOHOHO. When you go to sleep for example, you don't become unconscious, you just have a different experience of time.

 

[Comatose11]

There is no way anyone could recall experiencing "nothingness." Nothingness would mean no consciousness. I had liposuction back in 2002, and I remember being told that I was being put under and then I was immediately experiencing pain from the surgery with no time in between. Even though I was put under for 2-3 hours, I had no recollection of that time. That is what nothingness is. To put it another way, if reincarnation was real, you could die and be dead for a million years. You could then be reincarnated into a baby. To you, it would feel if you transitioned instantly from your body to a baby.

What they mean by nothingness is just what you described. They remember some moment before they lost consciousness and then remember waking up later in a hospital or whatever. I know what nothingness is, thank you very much.

 

[Deleted member 847]

Imagine dying, the materialists being right about there not being any soul but, you still get an after life because the universe is eternal and atoms will eventually recreate the information that makes you given an infinite amount of time.

 

[Comatose11]

Comatose most of those studies are biased because they're made by materialists

I'm a little skeptical. I don't think an afterlife or reincarnation makes any logical sense. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Deleted member 847]

I'm a little skeptical. I don't think an afterlife or reincarnation makes any logical sense. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

We are energy processed by the brain. What do you think happens to this energy after the body dies, it magically dissappears?

 

[Comatose11]

We are energy processed by the brain. What do you think happens to this energy after the body dies, it magically dissappears?

I think it will go somewhere, but not in an afterlife. I believe our unconsciousness ceases to exist because our brains are what causes consciousness. I don't believe we have a soul.

 

[Deleted member 847]

I think it will go somewhere, but not in an afterlife. I believe our unconsciousness seizes to exist because our brains are what causes consciousness. I don't believe we have a soul.

Well whatever happens is better than being here, can we agree on that?

 

[Comatose11]

Well whatever happens is better than being here, can we agree on that?

Just about. Recincarnartion would be the worst scenario. But an afterlife wouldn't be much better than on earth unless we could choose everything about it.

 

[Deleted member 847]

Just about. Recincarnartion would be the worst scenario. But an afterlife wouldn't be much better than on earth unless we could choose everything about it.

Well yeah reincarnation would actually be worse, good point