Venting a life with no right to opt out is a torment

[Matchaaa]

Sometimes, when I watch nature documentaries and see scenes of predators and prey, I can't help but feel a sense of melancholy. It seems that all animals, in order to survive, are forced to sustain themselves through mutual harm and competition. Even humans are no exception; the only difference is that we distinguish between indirect and direct harm.
I hate the fact that I wasn't born by choice, and that when I want to die, I don't even have the option of a painless death.
If there were a system for assisted dying, I could clearly die happily and peacefully surrounded by my loved ones, but that's something I'll never be able to achieve in this lifetime. If such a system existed, I might be willing to work for a few years to visit a few more countries, though that would require a good nationality and passport – things I don't possess, ha ha. If I could die happily in the end, I could reflect more calmly and clearly on the choices and attitudes I truly desire, without having to endure the 'noise' of suffering. The essence of life lies in experience; if life is reduced to nothing but unbearable suffering, then it is meaningless. Some euthanasia laws impose extremely onerous conditions, and it remains illegal in most countries – how cruel. There are so many people in the world suffering various forms of pain, and so many living in extreme poverty… Therefore, procreation itself is immoral, particularly when parents face intense survival pressures and poverty. Unless parents are capable of ensuring their children are completely spared from severe suffering (which is rarely possible), it is fundamentally unreasonable. The essence of happiness is, in fact, merely the alleviation of suffering. If there were a well-developed assisted dying system, procreation might be viewed as a neutral option; but in its absence, procreation appears cruel, and even carries a strong element of 'coercion'.
Thank you for reading this far.

 

[owo]

It seems that all animals, in order to survive, are forced to sustain themselves through mutual harm and competition

true. its how our world built of

true. its how our world built of

in case of animals

 

[FuneralCry]

I really understand, I just always suffer so much from existing in this horrific reality where humans have made dying painlessly illegal with the suffering and torture of existing seen as to force and prolong no matter what, more than anything I wish I never suffered in this torturous existence.

It's just so terrible to me how this existence was imposed causing all this harm and suffering as a result with no limit as to how much one can be tortured yet I cannot just have the option to never suffer ever again, I'll always find it so painful and torturous to be trapped in this existence, all I want is peace from the dreadful suffering and torture of existing.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I completely agree. Sometimes I wonder though- even if more permissive assisted dying programes existed- would we be free- even then? It would also hinge on people being willing to let loved ones go and, I don't think we're all that good at that- as a species. Especially when children want to go before their parents.

Even if a person is very altruistic about it. They understand that letting that person go may be the kindest/ most loving thing they can do for them- can the person themselves cope with the sense of guilt that they are about to inflict this grief on their loved one(s)?

I believe a number of people (including me) are trying to hold on here for the sake of trying not to hurt others. While it would be an amazing relief to know we had a reliable, dignified and relatively peaceful exit available to us- how many of us could choose to take it with no concern for those left behind?

I tend to think being born here not only puts us in a practical trap- where it is practically difficult to die. We are also sometimes stuck in an emotional trap too, where- we feel emotionally blackmailed/ manipulated to stay here. That can happen regardless of whether our loved ones are actually that emotionally demanding or not. The natural wish to not do them harm can trap us here.

I wonder if assisted dying becoming part of our lives may shift our attitudes towards death though. If it became the norm that people could die of their own volition- even at a very young age, pehaps people would accept more the possibility they would need to let someone go- who's had enough.

Perhaps the tables would turn so that the suicidal person is no longer seen as the unreasonable party. Who hasn't heard the phrase: 'Think what it would do to your loved ones'? Perhaps people would start to pressure the pro- life people. As in: 'Consider what you're insisting these people endure by staying here. Think what it's doing to them being trapped here.'

 

[itsgone2]

Yes, the animal Kingdom is a brutal competition for survival. Even though we have societies it's still true for us.

I never looked at life that way. I didn't do enough. I didn't prepare enough.

That's my fault that's me being stupid. But I'd much rather die now. It's over.

My body, my choice. It's literally my body. It should be my choice.

 

[Matchaaa]

Yes, the animal Kingdom is a brutal competition for survival. Even though we have societies it's still true for us.

I never looked at life that way. I didn't do enough. I didn't prepare enough.

That's my fault that's me being stupid. But I'd much rather die now. It's over.

My body, my choice. It's literally my body. It should be my choice.

It's not your fault and you're not stupid.
Whatever decision you make,I hope you can find inner peace and relief.

I completely agree. Sometimes I wonder though- even if more permissive assisted dying programes existed- would we be free- even then? It would also hinge on people being willing to let loved ones go and, I don't think we're all that good at that- as a species. Especially when children want to go before their parents.

Even if a person is very altruistic about it. They understand that letting that person go may be the kindest/ most loving thing they can do for them- can the person themselves cope with the sense of guilt that they are about to inflict this grief on their loved one(s)?

I believe a number of people (including me) are trying to hold on here for the sake of trying not to hurt others. While it would be an amazing relief to know we had a reliable, dignified and relatively peaceful exit available to us- how many of us could choose to take it with no concern for those left behind?

I tend to think being born here not only puts us in a practical trap- where it is practically difficult to die. We are also sometimes stuck in an emotional trap too, where- we feel emotionally blackmailed/ manipulated to stay here. That can happen regardless of whether our loved ones are actually that emotionally demanding or not. The natural wish to not do them harm can trap us here.

I wonder if assisted dying becoming part of our lives may shift our attitudes towards death though. If it became the norm that people could die of their own volition- even at a very young age, pehaps people would accept more the possibility they would need to let someone go- who's had enough.

Perhaps the tables would turn so that the suicidal person is no longer seen as the unreasonable party. Who hasn't heard the phrase: 'Think what it would do to your loved ones'? Perhaps people would start to pressure the pro- life people. As in: 'Consider what you're insisting these people endure by staying here. Think what it's doing to them being trapped here.'

I think your point is very valid. I had previously underestimated the power of emotional bonds—it's a great perspective.
I think that if euthanasia truly becomes a part of our lives, everyone's views on life and death might change significantly. Perhaps they'll come to understand that "you shouldn't use emotions to pressure or manipulate others' decisions."